• Travis Sven LeMonte

    So zada except everyone gets a hit instead and non legendary

    • Jonathan Mueller

      Zada doesn’t care when your opponent casts stuff on him.
      This guy does, which makes a HUGE difference.

      • Mr.Mayhem631

        Yes, that’s what they said.

  • Kaiser

    Oooh i like this Dragon so much. Yeah your opponent can just “boost” mirrorwing dragon and just get a lot of value for free but in other hand he cant just rip the dragon.

  • Tolle

    Kicked right of replication

    • Azerea97

      Yeah, that would be ridiculous. I feel like it will be run in B/R decks more than R/U, since B/R is more of a buff type set and R/U tends to be more control and burn, but if your opponent has Rite then you’re pretty screwed.

  • Jonathan Mueller

    Notice that it works the other way around as usual – the caster’s creatures are affected, not yours.

    And it HAS to be done.
    Which makes this thing amazing against removal, because it might just result in a one-sided wrath for your opponent.

    Sure, it can also backfire if he has any pump spells, but that sounds like the far less likely scenario.

    A 4/5 flyer that your opponent can’t throw removal at seems very dangerous by itself.
    Add to that the fact that you can use the ability to your advantage to boost all of your creatures, and this card looks very solid.

    • Nathan Harviala

      I was going to say something along the lines of “But, infect runs pump! They would adore this card!” Then I realized something else: If infect hasn’t won by the time this gets cast, or most modern decks for that matter, then there is either something very wrong, they’re playing mill, or they’re playing control.

  • Hecksus

    If I have two Dragons of these on the battlefield, I can have infinite copies of a spell?

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      No.
      The copies aren’t cast.

      • Devon Ronald MacInnis

        unless they say to cast them

        • eltratzo

          grmblmbl. effects that create copies of cards on the stack to my knowledge never cast them. there are however cards that create copies in other zones and then allow you to cast those (usually without paying their manacost). this entierly depends on which effect was used to create the copies not waht is copied. the dragon creates the usual on the stack copies and thus they aren’t cast.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          No, the copies just aren’t cast.
          No “unless”, it just never happens.

    • TogetherAlone

      I don’t believe so, its a cast trigger, you don’t cast copies I think.

  • Mr.Mayhem631

    Dies to doom blade, 0/10

    • Matt86

      You just made my day ^^

    • Azerea97

      Only if they’re running mono black though. But yes, Doom Blade is a strong counter to this card.

      • Mr.Mayhem631

        What do you mean?
        It doesn’t matter if they’re running every color but black and sold their soul to get the black mana to cast Doom Blade, it’ll still kill it. :P

        • Daniel Kaine Allen

          I think you’re missing his point. If the deck casting doom blade is mono black, its all good. But if the deck casting it is multi color, it’ll sacrifice all of its nonblack creatures to kill the dragon.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            No, I think you really missed the joke in both posts entirely.

  • Kevan Kramer

    A card that you want to die to your opponents removal? Sweet. Still more of a limited card.

  • John Doan

    How would this work with two options like kolagans command? Do I get to pick another option and copy both choices for now many creatures I have?

    • It doesn’t work with Kolagahn’s Command, it has more than 1 target.

      • TogetherAlone

        Does this work if both effects target the dragon off of any of the commands?

        • If some how you can have the command ONLY target the dragon ,which can’t happen with any of the commands in standard, I believe that it would work. However, you do not get to change modes.

          • TogetherAlone

            This is actually kinda good with long road home… Give your entire team a +1/+1 counter and blink them.

          • None of the ones spoiled thus far can only target this with multiple modes and have benefit.

          • EddieDeanofIgnorance

            Silumgar’s Command can technically be used on the Dragon, but I don’t know why anybody would want to bounce their entire board (the modes you’d choose are “return target permanent to its owner’s hand” and “target creature gets -3/-3 until end of turn” but since the bounce is listed first it happens first and thus makes the -3/-3 pointless if there’s something you’re wanting to kill on your side).

      • John Doan

        You are totally right, I missed the “only targets” clause

  • MrAptronym

    A dragon… that I like? This is odd…

  • TheAweDude

    Go ahead, use that Anguised Unmaking on my dragon. Make my day.

    • TogetherAlone

      Oh god that would be silly.

    • EddieDeanofIgnorance

      Quit taunting them and just let Emrakul make them do it for you.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      beep nope

  • Ultramegalord

    Guess I get to keep running the Zada wolf deck post rotation ;)

  • Vixin Xiviir

    The fact that your opponent can trigger this and possibly wipe their board with a single removal spell is really good.

  • Zek Drakon

    Curiosity if opponent cast removal target it and they have creature with hexproof would be counted under you control or your opponent. Cause your opponent spell but your ability and it copy? Also a slight drawback to card is they could copy this creature cannot be block over whole army using it to their advantage with top buff spell on their creature buff one enemy creature to buff your army.

    • Azerea97

      It would still target your creature with hexproof because the copy is controlled by you, not your opponent. Also, yes, your opponent could do that, but that’s why, when running this, you put things in your deck to deal with that kind of stuff.

  • Edward

    I wish this had flash and then changed the target of a spell to itself because that would be super trolly but this is just fine too. I thought it was the same as Zada at first but then realized that when your opponent targets it they copy their spells to all of their creatures too so that can help or hurt them.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      That sounds like a UG spell.
      In fact, I’m pretty sure that’s a thing.
      One sec, off to surf Gatherer for an hour.

      • Mizzium Meddler flashes and changes the target to itself.

  • Nanya

    Question!

    How does this work via “I steal your creature”?

    • ForeverLaxx

      Exactly as it’s written. You play this Dragon, your opponent casts a “steal” sorcery on it, then they copy that “steal” sorcery targeting all their other creatures. That player gets control of their own creatures (that they already control, which is meaningless) and your Dragon. The only time this could end up not being pointless is if you use a “steal” effect that also untaps or buffs the stolen creature, thereby passing the buff and untap effect to all your creatures.

      • TogetherAlone

        Actually if you use an act of treason effect on another creature then steal the dragon you would also steal that creature permanently too i believe.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          I don’t follow.
          You would return it at EOT.

        • ForeverLaxx

          No, you wouldn’t.

      • Nanya

        So basically this thing is only good against kill spells, huh?

        And mass buffs to your field, I guess.

        Not bad, but not as good as I thought originally.

        • ForeverLaxx

          That’s why it’s written the way it is. It’s an aggro deck’s card, not a control player’s card. Generally speaking, anyway. I’m sure there’s something out there that can be used in an unforeseen way, but at first pass it’s really only pseudo-protection against targeted kill and buff proliferation. Both strong effects, but nothing too terribly crazy.

      • eltratzo

        With most of the steal effects it would also haste most of their board. probably mostly irrelevant but still something.

    • Guest

      You would gain control of the dragon, and gain control of each creature you control. Essentially nothing happens to you creatures.

  • Arcus Diabolus

    My annoyance that in the face of all that we liked about Innistrad is fading fast, they decided to print a token dragon aside, I really like this card. Theres a really big reason for why someone would want to remove this, but can’t because of the one side board wipe that would follow if they couldn’t use a o-ring to do it.

    • Andrew

      o-ring or kills your creatures are immune to, eyeblights in an elf deck, doom blade in mono black etc.

  • Jaya

    Slightly better than Zada since it procs off your opponents spells, making their removal be a little tricky. However oponnents can take advantage of this to power their creatures.
    Its pretty much a every in the table Zada.
    Anyways Zada never seen much competitive play and this being a sub par version probably wont, it isnt legendary so no hopes for EDH.

    • TogetherAlone

      This is better than zada since it has some built in protection against spot removal, flying and a decent body for its cost. But that is just my opinion

      • Jaya

        Depends on meta, opponents can use this to their advantage too, after summoning some devils they can cast a pump in your dragon to pump all their tokens and finish u off using your own creature, how humiliating.

        • eltratzo

          if they play a deck that utilises devil tokens and targeted pump spells they deserve that win. and also probably play one of theese tthemselves ^^

    • Andrew

      Yup, protects itself by messign with any removal, and you play the pumps to make your army massive.

  • TogetherAlone

    So is this basically an evolution of moonveil dragon? The art and theme seem pretty similar.

  • Ryū

    Hahaha, dies to just about any kill spell and takes your army with it.

    • TogetherAlone

      Dies to any of your opponents spells and takes their creatures with it you mean.

    • Taxle

      You might want to read that again. If the opponent uses removal, his creatures get taken down, not yours

      • Ryū

        I know, that’s what I meant.

  • Zombie

    So it’s a strictly worse Zada ability tacked onto a big dragon?

    Cool but this thing could backfire in a major way. Like, blowing up all of your creatures with a single kill spell backfiring.

    It’s neat but this is the bulkest of bulk mythics for EMN.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      How is it strictly worse?
      You’ve misread it.
      If they Murder it, it wipes their board.

      • Quest

        And if they use a spell like Become Immense while having 10 tokens….

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          That’s not strictly worse.
          Also, folks, lets think how likely that is.
          Who plays targeted pump spells in tokens?

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Ok i ask you to sacrifice an enchantment and i give a +1/+1 counter to your dragon.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            DromCom doesn’t just target Mirrorwing Dragon, meaning it won’t get copied, so thanks for pumping my guy!

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            You have the idea, now that means this creatures wont be played.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            No, I was saying you just wasted your DromCom pumping one of my guys instead of one of yours because you neglected to read the card.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Point for that, i was just saying that card aint great.
            There are better 5drops actually.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            It’s a 5 mana 4/5 flier with protection, which is very playable.
            The copying is almost a bonus.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Reality smasher seems better and yet ain’t played mucho.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            What are you on about?
            It sees plenty of play.
            It also doesn’t copy your stuff, so this has an edge in that area.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            I’m talking standard here.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Yes, me too.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Basically, Avacyn and Smasher are better than this imo and that’s why i think it won’t be a staple.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            The copy thing is really good and the flying and protection is what will really help it see play.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            The good point for this card is that it will pisses off reflector mage players.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            It’s weak to RM, sure, but still.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Hmmm now that we are talking about it.
            I exile the dragon with declaration in stone, and i have a sphinx of the final word, do we consider the hexproof protecting the sphinx or do i still control the copies of the declaration in stone ?

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Since you control the copies, it would hit Sphinx.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Sadface

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Pretty nice card, isn’t it.

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            It’s ok.
            No haste or flash makes it meh, the protection is cool but there are some tricks in the format actually

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            It’s maybe because i’m mostly a control player that this card doesnt frighten me much.

          • Daniel Kaine Allen

            you must be really fun at tourneys

          • I.R.Shnow

            If you choose 1st mode, and 3rd mode, and there are no instants and/or spells on the stack, then you have no target for that mode, and Dromoka’s Command will only target mirrorwing dragon, which allows you to copy that spell… is that right?

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            You can’t choose a mode with no targets, so no.

          • I.R.Shnow

            What happens if there are 3 of 4 modes without legal targets?

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Can’t cast it.

          • I.R.Shnow

            If you choose Dromokas Command 2nd mode, you’ll have a second target apart of the dragon (a player) and its copy ability will not trigger….

          • Quest

            Some people did with Atarka tokens?

            Not a standard player though.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            I’ll take your word for it?
            More often you’ll be pumping your whole team with this efficient flier.

          • Happy The Cat

            I play Sigil Blessing…

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Because that sees ALL THE PLAY EVER
            I mean, yes, you’re correct, that is one that would be pretty great.
            But in reality, what’s more likely is this thing steamrolls your face while you sit, afraid to remove it for fear of wiping your board.

          • Happy The Cat

            probably not, seeing as the decks that I have with sigil also wraths in case someone steals a token generator or something and I have to prove I’m not a bad white player.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Never seen a deck like that, but okay.

      • Zombie

        Ah yeah, fair enough. I can see the appeal then. Probably gonna be a finisher for some midrange/control decks in Standard if they use/splash red then.

    • Andrew

      I’m sorry are we confusing strictly better with strictly worse? There is one case that this can be better, and that’s targeted pump spells, and most mass weenie decks don’t use those, they use field pumps.

      • Zombie

        You do realize that Mirrorwing Dragon’s ability is literally Zada’s with a massive downside tacked on, right?

        Your opponent can target it with, say, Murder, and then Mirrorwing Dragon hits all of your other creatures with Murder too.

        • De’Elgathor

          It doesn’t copy the spells for your creatures, it copies them for the caster’s creatures. Someone murders this, they also murder their board.

          • Ben Clark

            Yup Zombie needs to reread the card, this is a significantly better Zada, for 1 mana more it’s ability now offers it protection from kill spells unless your opponent wants to wipe his own board, has flying and a bigger body.

          • eltratzo

            he did 5 hours before you wrote your comment and rectified his evaluation like two posts below yours. also zombie missing significant details of a card on his first read through is something that happens somewhat regularily ^^ he even joked about it himself a year or so ago

          • Ben Clark

            Yup and 5 hours before you wrote your comment I carried on scrolling down after I wrote mine and saw his second comment but really couldn’t be bothered to waste my time writing a second comment. Don’t know Zombie, don’t comment here very often. Now you’ve made me waste 90 seconds of my life on a second comment that I’ll never get back lol.

          • eltratzo

            and now you wasted a beautiful pattern by commenting only 4 hours after me instead of five. shame on you ^^

  • Fabien Joan Bernex

    Ok, I give +4/+4 at your dragon. Thanks.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      Okay, your two creatures get buffed, nice job.

      • Fabien Joan Bernex

        basically, the idea is to play like this when you have more creatures than one.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          What deck plays pump spells and will have more than 2-3 creatures out?

          • Fabien Joan Bernex

            Limited.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            So, you’re saying this mythic isn’t that great in limited in some cases?
            oh noes, unplayable

          • James Allen

            Zada in EDH

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            I meant things that actually happen.
            Also that already has a way to abuse it, this won’t help at all.
            Heck, Zada EDH will probably play this.

  • Mr.Mayhem631

    Actually this is pretty good.
    Once we’re out of Magical Sad Pessimism Land, we can take a realistic look at this.
    Unless you’re playing limited, nobody will be playing both pump spells and having lots of creatures. More often the ability will just make it harder to kill, and since you likely built with it in mind, you can go nuts copying your own pump spells and such.
    Even in limited, you’ll also have lots of pump spells, and it’s still going to be a 4/5 flier with protection for 5 mana that copies your stuff. Pretty nice.

  • Happy The Cat

    hey! it’s Zada but big enough to survive my Fiery Gambits! Awesome! Jund tokens with a side if instant win conditions anyone?

  • Bige Boiy

    This isn’t strictly better or worse than anything; no ability like this has ever been printed. Buff spells aren’t played in any format outside of modern infect, so don’t pretend that this being unplayable in your imaginary Become Immense token meta is even slightly relevant. I don’t think any red deck playing large flyers would want to play this over Dragonlord Atarka, but this seems good in limited, being a reasonably large, hard to hit flyer.

    • Tragic

      Actually, this ability has been printed before in different ways. Precursor Golem and Zada, Hedron Grinder are very similar cards. Not exactly the same, but it’s still very similar.

  • Sitri

    Would two of these on the field make an infinite loop? The copies are each individual spells with individual targets correct?

    • Pbandme24

      Hmmm, I don’t know. I don’t think so, since the wording is “Whenever a player CASTS an instant or sorcery spell…,” but I’m not sure.

      • Tragic

        Correct, the copies are not being cast, therefore there is no loop. It’s the same with Precursor Golem.

  • Kahai

    Here’s our BA dragon. NOW GIMME AN ELEMENTAL!

  • kmk888

    If you look closely you can see that it has nothing to do with Innistrad or Emrakul, is bad, and exists only to appease those that demand a new dragon in every set. These cards upset me.

    • Liam Hector

      if you look closely… It’s another zada, that’s not legendary, avoids grasp/languish and has flying. And if you look even closer, it’s an alternate art for Dream Pillager and the art is similar to the Moonveil Dragon from the original innastrad (yes there were dragons before)

      And in every set there are large quantities of cards that don’t have anything to do with the storyline or plane. I agree that an eldrazi dragon would have been better (or a spirit dragon, zombie dragon, vampire dragon, etc) but it’s still a solid card

    • Bige Boiy

      if you look closely you can go fellate a cactus

      • kmk888

        Well I can’t argue with that logic

    • Jimmy

      Yeah it annoys me too when there are things that don’t seem to fit or make sense. Craterhoof Behemoth (doesn’t look like anything out of any horror movie), Batterskull (why does a battering ram have vigilance). I love this card and it’s ability but surely they could save it for another set. I mean they pump out enough sets that it would fit somewhere.

    • Happy The Cat

      see? red does get straight trash! the only redeeming thing about this is it will live my Fiery Gambits. mono red token combo decks ftw.
      I wish wizards would end this vendetta against red and let us have decent red cards again. the only even okay card for red is that three mana sorcery that deals three.

    • Nataku

      Normal Innistrad had Balefire and Moonveil. Both were a different kind of dragon than tarkir, more lithe. This fits in just fine, people will just complain because its not one of the cycle for the colors.

    • VoiceofKane

      It’s bad? It reflects your opponents’ kill spells to their own creatures, can mass pump your dudes from single-target buff spells, and has evasion and relevant stats for five mana that doesn’t die to most mass removal. It seems very good, despite being irrelevant to the story.

  • Vincent Godin-Filion

    This is almost as good as Hexproof. If your opponent casts Murder on it, all of HIS creatures will also be murdered. As a bonus, if you pump it, all your other critters will also get pumped. It’s actually great.

    • NC

      Unless they don’t have a creature out.

      • Happy The Cat

        then I had a 4/5 against an empty board, even if you did just kill it I’m probably ahead.

  • Deadly Berry

    Kind of an awkward ability, like others have suggested previously, who plays single target pump spells in a creature based deck? Wouldn’t you rather go with general effects like Glorious Anthem, etc? I don’t think this dragon tries to fill a niche or a specific deck, it’s more inclined to a “Hey, we don’t have many effects like this one, let’s make some more” trend.

    The real question is, why have two creatures with nearly the same unpleasant functionality in Standard? It’s a waste of a card slot.

    • Jaime Hubster

      Who pooped in this guy’s cereal? #IzzetShenanigans

      • kasigah

        Plus, Gruul isn’t going to complain about pump

    • Happy The Cat

      I read it more as a 5 mana 4/5 flyer with “shoot me and I’ll wipe your board”

      don’t forget that wizards is still on it’s vendetta against red, just a non-vanilla 4/5 flyer is good enough for red nowadays.

    • Daniel Kaine Allen

      On the other hand though, this creature greatly overshadows zada by a mile. Its not legenday, it flies, and it requires you opponent to use something other than a targeting instant or sorcery to deal with it.

  • ramenloverninja

    Did they print a dragon with mirrorforce?

    • wiseguy

      NOT SO FAST KAIBA! YOU’VE ACTIVATED MAH TRAP CARD!

  • zexy swami

    This card is very good. Being 5 toughness means it can’t be hit by Languish. Since Languish is one of the only reliable sweepers right now, it basically has to die to spot removal, which is ineffective against this card.

    Nobody is playing pump spells right now either, aside from Dromoka’s Command. If they start to play pump spells, it means the format has already warped to fight this card.

    Not only that, but the ability is really cool and flavorful.

    • Chaospyke

      Planar outburst and descend upon the sinful Are really common.

      However this guys main rival is stasis snare. There’s also the enemy cycle from dragons, that sadly no one uses. Surge of Righteousness would mess this guy up.

  • Creeperis Minecraft

    Thinking about it, wouldn’t this stack with zada and double pump all your guys?

    • Daniel Kaine Allen

      No. Because one of the two (zada or mirrorwing) is going to be hit by a copy spell. Which means that only one of the spells is actually being cast, the copy that hits the other creature wasn’t cast, so it won’t mirror the effect, if this were the case though, then the spells would just mirror infinitely until somebody decided they were over it and forfeit.