Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh - Hour of Devastation Spoiler

Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh



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+2: Target opponent exiles cards from the top of his or her library until he or she exiles a nonland card. Until end of turn, you may cast that card without paying its mana cost.

+1: Each opponent exiles two cards from his or her hand.

-4: Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh deals 7 damage to target opponent or creature an opponent controls.

-12 Exile each nonland permanent your opponents control.



  • Rovkir Hexus

    People will shenanigan this out, I’m sure of it.

    • A Mother*ucking Sorcerer

      I don’t know about Marvel and those shenanigans, but I will be hard casting this baby til it rotates

    • Jordan

      Already got my 4 copies of Marvel, just waiting.

  • Kitnz

    He has arrived! Two sets later than some expected… but here he is!

  • Jonathan Reynolds

    I expected having one more loyalty counter to have a stronger impact on this.

    • Nadorou

      Lets you -4 twice in a row for 14 damage to the face. :p

      • Jonathan Reynolds

        7 to the face is no joke. But if you can drop this on turn six or seven, not affect board state, and then still reliably expect this to not lose a loyalty counter by your next turn, something tells me you were doing just fine.

  • TogetherAlone

    This is so slow. ITs very good but so slow.

    • James

      How is this slow? It’s a possible turn 4 in standard right now. As is everything.

      • Krazyguy75

        Whereupon he is hit by a car or boat or zombie horde or a T4 Ulamog.

    • DJ Pad

      Top-End Win conditions generally are….

      • TogetherAlone

        however its also hard to cast. This literally has no chance of seeing play while marvel is is standard basically.

        • Thomas Luffman

          Grixis/ 4-color marvel anyone?

        • DJ Pad

          Control decks generally don’t have too hard a time reaching 7 mana. It will se play if Grixis control is a deck, and this is a big reason for it to be a deck.

  • Bige Boiy

    it can Deem Worthy creatues, which is nice

  • Danny Abou Jaoude

    fake. Set Name: Hour of Devastation

    Block: Set 2 of 2 in the Amonkhet Block

    Number of Cards: 184

    Officially there is only 184 cards. So fake because it has 140/199 which isn’t possiblem

    • Writerofthings

      It was spoiled on an official Wizard website

      • Danny Abou Jaoude

        then they need to fix their info on their official site. they say it’s only 184 cards in the set.

        • Zach Mullenax

          There are more than likely 15 Invocation/Evocation cards, which would make the numbers work. They did the same thing with Amonkhet.

          • BusinessmanGinger

            Invocations don’t count in the actual set number, they have their own out of 54, 30 for Amonkhet 24 for Hour

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Those are a separate set.

      • Mr.Mayhem631

        Please link that site, then.

        It’s still definitely real, but I want to see it.

        • Joseph Lunan (Shadowshand)

          Sadly, WOTC noticed their mistake and retracted it immediately. I for one did see the cards on the website however before it was pulled.

    • Joe

      It could be higher due to the exclusive cards found in the planeswalker decks.

      • Mr.Mayhem631

        Those don’t increase set size number.

      • Gary Brown

        Planeswalker deck cards aren’t included in the second number though (or at least haven’t been up to now). I.e. Ajani, Valiant Protector is 185/184

        • Nadorou

          They could have revised that.

          • Gary Brown

            Indeed, that is perfectly possibly. Although that would mean 15 Planeswalker deck cards (199-184), which would be odd given there had been exactly 10 in each other instance. If that were the case it suggest three planeswalker decks with 5 exclusive cards each….

          • Happy The Cat

            it could also be they are increasing the exclusive cards for these decks since it features Bolas and they have been saying we were taking a break from the Gatewatch. leaving this as a goodbye for now.

          • Necrachilles

            could work. 7 each with a shared mana rock or something

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            It’s pretty unlikely.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      There’s no way it’s fake, with that art.

      Maybe we’re getting DFCs and they didn’t want to give it away?

    • dashkatae

      Could be new basic lands are in the set. 3 new basics, one which is a new full art, two regular ones with new art depicting the plane after the hour of devestation.

    • John Scott

      well if it is fake because of the 140/199, then so are samut and bontu’s reckoning as they say the same thing

    • Dr. Burn Crow

      What about Invocations

  • aswanlikeneck

    So Dark Intimations bring the ult a turn closer, but not if you want him to stick around.

    • Necrachilles

      or if there’s four in your graveyard…thats ult on next turn or same turn with oath of gideon

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    Yep, that’s Bolas.

    • Kaiser

      HE EXILES EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Guest

    I hope there’s an intro deck version as well…

    • Thomas Porter

      Secretly this isss the intro deck version.

      • Guest

        I guess I’m just disappointed that he’s just an “exile everything” planeswalker. There already is an “exiling” planeswalker: Karn.

        • Kahai

          Karn isn’t exiling things like Bolas though.

          In lore, Exile doesn’t always mean non graveyard.

          In Karn’s case, he isn’t exiling things, he’s sending them back in time. Explicitly for the purpose of helping himself when he resets. His abilities all deal with time, not in this case with Bolas who is likely so in-lore strong that he can just outright remove things from reality.

          • Mr.Mayhem631

            Ooh, I never got that flavor, that’s cool.

  • Mr.Mayhem631

    He has an interesting focus on exile.

    • Hedronal

      I take it he doesn’t want things embalmed or aftermathed against him.

  • Kahai

    That’s good. <3

  • Zombie

    Doming something/someone for 7 is pretty cute. Gives him an answer to basically every meta threat sans Gods with which to protect himself.

    But casting a CMC 7 Grixis Balustrade Spy is pretty terrible value with how many ways you can kill large single threat planeswalkers right now.

    The best interaction he has, honestly, is Mind Rot’ing your opponents, which makes him ultra-dumb in multiplayer.

    Coming down late when your opponent is likely sandbagging win cons, removal, etc. is huge.

    • Aurore

      Unlike Balustrade Spy though you get to grab something.

      • Also, Balustrade Spy says until a land is hit, this says nonland.

      • Necrachilles

        and cast it for free…at anytime during that turn

        • Happy The Cat

          hey, umm fun fact. Stolen Goods sucks, and a 7 mana Stolen Goods is even worse.

          • Srack the Herald

            You get something nice every single turn for free and +2 loyalty counters? Thats really sick.
            Only thing to complain… the ult is meh for a bolas ult

          • Happy The Cat

            you get something, not something nice, maybe you get lucky and flip removal or one of Trons win cons, but most of the time Stolen goods is a bad effect, and without Precognition or a like effect to let you rig an opponent’s topdeck(which is already a bad idea, since they could just stop bolas and keep their card you wanted) that card is seven out of ten times going to be helpful, the other three are going to be useless or completly counter-intuitive.

      • Zombie

        Balustrade Spy also gives you a body, which was my point.

        It’s obviously stronger than Spy, I was just comparing the two random effects that spin the wheel and give you something.

        But honestly, even at 7 mana, whatever you hit, minus like an Ulamog or something, won’t be worth 7 mana.

        Play him, protect himself with -4, then just eat your opponent’s hand, then play their cards will probably be his most frequent line of play.

  • Bige Boiy

    at least grixis tron isn’t a thing… yet

    • Thomas Porter

      Don’t encourage them! It wouldn’t surprise me at this point. There’s so many flavors of tron already.

    • Happy The Cat

      well, there was RainbowTron back before the eldrazi, I’m pretty sure it even featured Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.

  • Ryū

    Sweet.

  • Vizzerdrix

    It’s kinda like a grixis karn, won’t exile a permanent but 7 damage and also being in grixis colors it’ll kill whatever it’s going after, ult is actually pretty close to karn you just don’t things that were exiled and they honestly have a chance to win but you likely were ripping apart their hand.
    Overall pretty decent pw

  • Caleb Halbrook

    Grixis marvel?

  • Kaiser

    OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG es hermosooooo, ah sorry, english. This is soooo epic i love it

    • Charlie Shadeslayer

      Sigue siendo hermoso, con esa carita que sólo Bolas mismo ama.

  • Train Thumakorn Liberated

    So, with Dark Intimation
    He can burn your opp’s head for 7 damage 2 time in a row!

    His 2nd ability is such a bonker in EDH.
    Can’t wait to play him!

  • Happy The Cat

    well, that’s decent, and that -4 means that he counts as decent burn! hooray!
    but over all, he isn’t even close to as overpowering as his predecessor, 7+2 starting is massive high to other high cost pws but the mill has to get lucky for it to effect the board, the Mega Mind Rot is nice but when he is coming out each opponent probably either doesn’t have the cards in hand for this to matter or has so many it wont effect them(that doesn’t mean it can’t lock out a control mirror though). the -4 is probably the best ability but it just costs soo much, but only because letting burn deal 14 damage over two turns would be too insane in wizard’s eyes.lastly his ult is just a lightly better inGW, which you could cast before he could ult(assuming you get one land per turn, and bolas does nothing but +2 for three turns and doesn’t punched) while it’s powerful, you are giving up all the damage the -4 could be doing.

  • jaya

    Old nicol was much better, wtf is this, you call yourself god-pharaoh? Typical wizards keeping lore and actual gameplay as retardly unconnected as per usual.

    • Aurore

      Oh noes, this balanced card meant to be unoppressive isn’t as broken as one of the most powerful planeswalkers of all time! I’m so sad it won’t be completely warping and unfun for everyone just for the sake of people who want broken stuff!

      • Austin Merritt

        Bad day?

        • Aurore

          No, just curious as to what this guy was expecting. +1 to exile all your opponent’s creatures or something?

    • Kahai

      idk what you’re talking about. Milling is akin to making people forget something they used to know, exiling spells from the library is like destroying parts of their brain permanently.

      He is literally shredding your mind and than he shreds your body. Wicked af.

      • Happy The Cat

        well, mind sculptor shredded your mind, this guy just steals an idea you have. and the only shredding this guy will be doing is the sick flip as he goes to the graveyard once he -4d and then ate a bolt.

        • Kahai

          funny stuff :P

    • Kaiser

      This guy cast whatevers he mills FOR FREE, takes 2 cards of your opponents hand, wipes his board, nuke opponents for 7. FOR WHAT REASON is bad? XD is not Nicol bolas Planeswalker, but what makes that card “better” is just the one ab that makes him better than whatever walker that comes early cause he kills PWs

  • Austin Merritt

    Man, kinda upset his ult doesn’t hit lands. Wasted opportunity imo

    • Aurore

      Wasted opportunity to be a cancerous limited bomb?

      • Ted R Deniro

        Remind me of the last time you saw someone win the game because he landed a planeswalker ultimate(completely one sided games don’t count). If you cast this in limited you’re most likely going to land his -4 before anything else.

  • Phoenix UNBENCHED

    sexy af, will be playing this

  • Shagoth

    Oh this is worse than the original because this community is illogically cynical!
    Oh, this can literally kill the opponent when it enters, and has two redonk abilities to boot that are as tough as the original’s!

    • Krazyguy75

      A lot of things can kill an opponent who is down 13 life by turn 7. Most of those don’t cost 7 mana in three colors.

      Also, it’s abilities are actually quite underwhelming, albeit with big numbers. His +2 is RNG and unreliable protection. His +1 is terrible. It’s turn 7, no one has 4 spare cards sitting in hand, unless they are playing a deck that would never let this hit the field. His -4 is just a worse version of Ugin’s +2 (7 damage vs 9 damage over three turns, the only difference being that bolas can kill things with 4-7 toughness and ugin can kill 3 things with 1-3 toughness). His ult wins games after being un-damaged for 4 turns with no reliable protection.

      • Shagoth

        “His -4 is just a worse version of Ugin’s +2 (7 damage vs 9 damage over three turns, the only difference being that bolas can kill things with 4-7 toughness and ugin can kill 3 things with 1-3 toughness)”
        Three turns is kind of a giant difference. Also it technically is cheaper. I do believe that Ugin is a much more powerful card, and I don’t claim to say that this will make an impact in standard aside from maybe a sideboard card in the Marvel mirror match. This card is fun but it won’t impact the competitive scene.
        “His ult wins games after being un-damaged for 4 turns with no reliable protection.”
        Four turns? At that point they shouldn’t still be at twenty.
        Yeah, lot’s of things can have direct seven damage on turn seven, but built in free card advantage while milling someone and potential card advantage by exiling their cards can be nice in commander are both good options. I just think that people are too quick to say this is awful in comparison to the first one when they really aren’t comparable. The first Bolas was slightly more expensive but it was also all about removal. (I’m counting steeling creatures as removal) This one is about the other aspects of control; Win cons and card advantage.
        Call this one worse than the old one all day, but it’s scaly god pharaoh apples to scaly god pharaoh oranges.
        It just feels like a knee jerk reaction the community has is to say something is bad and compare it to things flavorfully similar that play different roles. I saw one guy say that Treasure Cruise was garbage and anyone who thought other wise was stupid, and then after it got banned he basically said “I told you so, anyone who doubted this thing’s innate power was asinine,” which of course was a top comment. People doubt everything, sometimes they’re right, sometimes they’re wrong, but they usually use backwards arguments too often like a previous card being better (so of course people just play them both in the same deck or the new one ends up replacing it) or dying to removal.

        • Krazyguy75

          They are both 3 turns. Bolas just starts with ~5 turns stored up, whereas Ugin builds from scratch. Bolas is faster damage, if he takes no hits.

          He still loses in the long term (by 5 uses of bolas ugin has dealt 36 damage to bolas’s 35). If they both take 1 damage a turn, Ugin outburns bolas by the second use of his -4, dealing 18 damage compared to 14, and Ugin is up 6 loyalty.

          The problem with this Bolas is he has no protection. Old Bolas had reliable protection, in the form of the enemy’s best creature, and had removal for every permanent on the field. This Bolas can remove creatures at high cost and has to rely on literal blind luck to get a good defender. His +’s are too low to keep him stable when you give up a turn merely to cast him.

          • Shagoth

            Ultimates are both three turn ults, I was referring to the seven damage vs the three damage. Ugin does three damage when he enters, bolas does seven. It does say “target opponent” when it comes to the -4 if I’m not mistaken.
            Either way, Bolas isn’t meant to be played like a utility planeswalker. Now that Aetherworks has been banned, I doubt he’ll see ANY play at all. He’s a casual card, but I think the original was, too. The only time Boldas (because old+Bolas) really saw play was when people were determined to make Bolas work. They are both probably going to be banished to the EDH realm.

          • Krazyguy75

            You have no clue what I mean apparently. Allow me to make it obvious.

            +2: 3 damage.
            +2: 3 damage.
            +2: 3 damage.
            Turn 3: Net +6, 9 damage.

            -4: 7 damage.
            +2: 0 damage.
            +2: 0 damage.
            Turn 3: Net 0, 7 damage.

            If undamaged, it takes 10 turns for Ugin to surpass Bolas.
            Bolas’s -4 (7), +2, -4 (14), +2, +2, -4 (21), +2, +2, -4 (28), +2 (still 28), +2, -4 (35)
            vs
            Ugin’s +2 x10 (30), which stays winning at 12 (36).

            If damaged by 1 damage a turn on average, it takes a mere 3.
            Bolas’s -4-1 (7), +2-1, +2-1, +2-1, +2-1, -4-1 (14)
            vs
            Ugin’s +2-1 deals 9 by turn 3 to Bolas’s 7, and keeps beating him by Bolas’s next use (18-14).

            If damaged by 2 average, Bolas can’t ever use his burn, whereas Ugin nets 0 for 3 damage a turn.

          • Shagoth

            Overly complex math aside with about a trillion variables and things that could happen, which really shouldn’t be taken into account for complete accuracy, I’d rather do 7 damage on turn 7 than 3 turn 8. Undamaged, Bolas will do 14 damage over 3 turns. Ugin will do 9 over three turns. Bolas does better over three turns, I frankly don’t care about the schematics, the specific math in specific situation really don’t matter that much with enough variables, especially since Bolas will probably not see play either way. I know the game is mathy, but this feels like looking at a math exam.

  • Bostorket

    Seems ok. Might see play.

  • Nanya

    Me want now!

    • Brian Schmidt

      You mean “meow”?

  • Alexandre Donnart

    Can’t want to see people adding 42 Chromatic Stars and Spheres to their Tron decks just to cast this guy on turn 3 or 4.

    He costs 7, starts at 9 Loyalty and gives you a free (random) spell from your opponent right when you play him. Tempting right ?

    • Alec

      No just run Oath of Nissa main.

      • Alexandre Donnart

        Also an idea but I don’t think it’s a great one. If it eats a Decay you’re stuck with a dead card, and you can’t pick artifacts with the ETB trigger.

    • Happy The Cat

      or you could not add a bunch of colors and just play Ugin. lightning bolt is probably better than what you could flip off a players deck. plus it wont take ugin three turns to ult.

    • Stefan

      Or just run 1-off Cascading Catacombs that you can get with your land search/Ancient Stirrings

  • Deadly Berry

    If this is real, I don’t understand the complains. Will see use 100%.

  • Nanya

    I just realized…

    The name is literally…

    “Nicol Bolas, God-Emperor”

    • Necrachilles

      Skovald is gonna be pissed

    • Pandancules

      no, the name is literally “Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh”

      • Nanya

        Pharaoh is another name for Emperor.

        • Pandancules

          That is not what ‘literally’ means, especially since Parhaohs were also religious leaders, so its not a fair translation.

        • Krazyguy75

          No, it means “Great House”. So his name is literally “Nicol Bolas, God-Great House”.

    • Cooper Jurgen ZIlkenat

      There can only be one god emperor and he’s sure as hell not some filthy xenos-psyker like whatever this “Bolas” is.

    • NuclearBernz

      Actually reads, “Yam-Yugi, game breaker”

  • Jude

    …WE ARE NOT WORTHY -bowing aggressively- WE ARE BUT WORMS. WORTHLESS WORMS

  • Edwin Marín Castro

    This one make the last Bolas looks weak, very weak.

    • Nanya

      Last Bolas has far superior field control.

    • Krazyguy75

      Last Bolas was waaay better.

      He forced the opponent to only be comfortable playing non-permanents. Play their best creature, in the hopes of beating down Bolas? Bolas takes it before it can even swing once. Play an enchantment in the hopes of holding off the things he stole from you? Now it’s gone. Play an artifact? Gone.

      This Bolas can kill 1 thing every 3 turns.

      Last Bolas could steal a creature 3 out of 5 turns and kill 2 non-creatures in the process.

  • Brian Schmidt

    Love the card if this is real but it just sucks that you can’t put this in a Commander deck with Atraxa being the Commander. Boo-urns!!!

    • Kevan Kramer

      You couldn’t do that with the first Bolas anyways. Just do 5 color superfriends

  • Bige Boiy

    what a hunk

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    Sort of makes the old Bolas look quaint in comparison. Kinda hoping against reason that this would be in the Archenemy product.

    • Nanya

      Almost. The old Bolas is better at field control.

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        Good call, i was thinking of just raw “Oh Dang” factor.

        • Nanya

          I agree with you.

          In Superfriends, if you have both Tamiyo Emblems out and both Bolas in your hand, you win the game. XD

          • Taxation is theft

            Counter it.

          • Nanya

            If both Tamiyo Emblems are out, it doesn’t matter.

          • Taxation is theft

            Why?

          • Nanya

            Any time a card goes to your graveyard from anywhere it’s returned to your hand (Mono-blue Tamiyo) and you can cast anything for free (Tamiyo, Field Researcher)

          • Taxation is theft

            Not if you exile the graveyard.

          • Nanya

            That’s the only counter, but it’s not perfect, seeing as old Bolas deals with things like Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void.

    • Krazyguy75

      I completely disagree.

      His +2 is pure RNG.

      His +1 is use once, cause no one will have 4 spare cards on turn 7, and if they did they’d have already used them by turn 8.

      His -4 is bad. It’s 7 damage per three turns. It’s either slow burn (2.3 damage per turn) or a terrible kill spell, cause anything with ~7 toughness will have evasion in any normal format, or will have had utility simply in hitting the field.

      His ult is great, but slow. He has no consistent protection, and all you opponent has to do to lock you off of this is deal an average of two damage per turn.

      He is cool in a vacuum, but in real play he takes all your T7 mana, requires 3 colors, is counterable, can’t protect himself, can’t instantly turn games around, and relies on an already winning field to do anything.

      Old Bolas costs 1 more.

      His +3 removes anything that isn’t a creature. If you have stable creatures that are being held back by enchantments or artifacts, get rid of them. If you aren’t being held back, kill their lands and mana screw them to prevent a comeback. If they have a scary walker about to ult, instakill it. It’s also a friggen +3.

      His -2 steals their best creature. Oh, they got Ulamog and are winning? Mine now. It’s like Newcol Bolas’ +2, but guaranteed to be good, and includes a kill spell. Usable 3 out of every 5 turns for a net 0.

      His ult is not as powerful, but just as game winning, and only takes 3 turns. Due to the +3 and ability to steal their best creatures, he has protection and is harder to slow down. Also it takes only 4 turns to rebuild.

      Old Bolas hits a turn later, instantly takes their hardest hitter out of commission and putting him in your control, and can continue to decimate their board state while building up yours. He can disable all walkers and non-creature field control. His ult is weaker but faster and harder to stop (8 damage to old Bolas slows him 2 rounds, 8 damage to Newcol slows him 4 rounds).

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        Hot dang, when you put it like that, Old Bolas really is a devastator. Now, in your view, which is better, Ugin or Old Bolas?

        • I don’t actually have an opinion about the viability of this card and I don’t like plainswalkers that much anyway so I don’t really take issue with your post, I just thought I’d point out one thing…

          His +2 IS RNG… but only so far. You’re guaranteed to mill at least one card and may do more (and if you do, then you’re milling the enemy’s mana), and then you’re guaranteed a free card. Yes it might not be a card you want to cast but it doesn’t change the fact that most of the time you’re probably going to pull something that has at least some minimal value to you, while denying it from the opponent (who it otherwise would probably have had guaranteed value for, since they put it in their deck), and all while GAINING loyalty.

        • Krazyguy75

          Depends. Ugin is splashable, Bolas isn’t. Ugin is easier to ramp to, as well. Bolas is in three colors without great mana fixing. Bolas is also more expensive.

          Once Bolas hits the field, he’s better. His +3 and -2 do a better job controlling the field then Ugin’s +2 and -X, as you build up your field while killing theirs opposed to just killing theirs. As for ults, Ugin is better in the long run, but Bolas enables a quick win.

          • Dr. Burn Crow

            That’s pretty much what I had thought, but I always like to check.

  • TheFullMontzy

    I have to say, I’m very disappointed in this card. A 7-drop is unplayable everywhere except commander, and while his ultimate is awesome, I expected a better over all ability set from the last elder dragon. He’s very underwhelming.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      bolas is disappointed in you

    • Laurens Hoppe

      Please don’t tell me you were expecting a standard playable Bolas planeswalker ;)

      • TheFullMontzy

        Not standard playable necessarily, but something better than this. Both of his plus abilities are weak, especially considering that he is a 7-drop. The old bolas not only was able to defend himself by stealing a creature, but he could slow down your opponent by destroying a noncreature permanent. If this card was a 4 or 5 drop and had a lower starting loyalty it wold be great, but its too overcosted for the abilities it has in my opinion

        • Giby86 .

          It is almost undercosted for the abilities it has. You can play him, -4 and instantly kill your opponent. 7 damage is a lot of damage (assuming you start at 20). If not, he can kill anything, even planeswalkers. The +2 can be devastating or could miss, but it’s a +2, which gives you two activations of his -4, and that’s 14 damage in 3 turns, which is a fast clock. His +1 is very powerful, and still puts him into the 14 damage range. His ultimate is probably the least interesting part of this card, because at 12 loyalty you could get 21 damage directly to the face of your opponent and just win.

          • Evil Tactics

            I agree. That 7 damage, potentially repeatable cannon, is deadly. If he’s being attacked/burned to stop a repeat 7 damage, at least you’re not getting damaged, buying you time to set up another threat. Leaving Bolas just sitting there is already quite threatening. And like what other people have suggested, use Marvelworks to speed him out if needed.

            I just view his ult as gravy for doubling season Super Friends decks.

          • Krazyguy75

            Just pointing out: Bolas is 3 colors and deals 7 damage every three turns while staying net 0 in loyalty. Ugin is 0 colors, and deals 9 every 3 turns while netting 6 loyalty. His -4 sucks.

            What it should have been is “7, split among any number of target creatures or players”. That would be worth spending three rounds on.

    • Hedronal

      He’s Nicol Bolas, the biggest, baddest individual in Mtg. Did you expect to not have some special deckbuilding to do to get full utility out of him? He’s necessarily going to be expensive and powerful.

      • TheFullMontzy

        I did expect a high mana cost. I guess what I’m trying to say is that besides his ultimate, his abilities don’t reflect his mana cost, they are just kinda lack luster.

        • Nanya

          His -4 is a call back to his Dragon self.

          His +1 is also a pseudo-call back to his Dragon self, being hand control.

          His Ult is a call back to his first Planeswalker form.

          His +2 represents what Bolas does, lore-wise, being able to destroy minds with ease.

        • Hedronal

          He can get you free but random spell or burn through almost anything upon entering the field.

    • Fanatic of Mark Rosewater

      “A 7 drop is unplayable everywhere except commander” What about Ugin? What about Karn? What about Ulamog? All of those cards are or were top dogs in standard and modern

      • Nanya

        The flying Spaghetti monster wasn’t?

        • Fanatic of Mark Rosewater

          Original Emrakul wasn’t played much in standard though. New Emrakul was played in standard before it got banned, but you almost never play Emrakul, the Promised End as a 7 drop. Usually it’s a 6 drop or lower in proper delirium or emerge decks

          • Nanya

            Fair enough.

      • M Hedonist

        Karn is colorless and exiles two permanents. This guy is three colors and is a sorcery-speed Deem Worthy. And he doesn’t even compare to Ugin or Ulamog at all. His +1 is Mind Rot and his +2 is random and will very likely not be worth 7 mana.

        • Fanatic of Mark Rosewater

          This guy isn’t just a sorcery speed Deem Worthy. It’s a hard to deal with threat with immediate board impact that can win the game all by itself if not dealt with and can Deem Worthy either the opponent’s face, a planeswalker, or a creature, and can generate either card advantage with its +1 or card and tempo advantage and eventually win the game with its +2 while gaining loyalty in the process, whichever best suits the player each turn. In my opinion its well worth the 7 mana the same way Ugin’s worth the 8 mana.

        • codetaku

          This card is better than Ugin against anything but pure cheap aggro. Granted, pure cheap aggro is good right now, but I could see this seeing some serious play even outside of aetherworks marvel within the year.

    • Corey Danger Wooten

      you forget about a card called aetherworks marvel?

  • Jude

    I will cram this into a standard deck. I will lose every game but it will be fun and i will die happy knowing it could have been great

    • Zombie

      Lose every game? What?

      Just play it in Marvel.

      • Jacob Kodicovic

        Oh, the irony.

        • Zombie

          I mean, Marvel was banned for pretty much the exact reason I made that comment.

          Just play something big in Marvel that wins games. Marvel hits it, gg.

  • Fanatic of Mark Rosewater

    Unless Hour of Devastation brings some extremely powerful cards that allow control decks to be viable, I doubt this card will see play outside of perhaps aetherworks marvel decks until Kaladesh rotates, simply because control decks are not viable currently with decks like mardu vehicles and black x zombies going around cause WoTC screwed up standard rotation

  • Daniel Poirier

    He’s a fair finisher in standard. Decks will aim for him t4-6, assuming he comes in with an extra loyalty counter somewhere, he’s straight up -4, -4 and there’s 14 dmg to the face. T1 blue source brown 1/0 drop t2 black source brown 1/0 drop brown 1/0 drop t3 inspiring statuary t4 bolas. No marvel and holds past rotation. Decks will play.

    • Hedronal

      “brown 1/0 drop”? Meaning artifact, cmc 1 or less?

      • codetaku

        Yeah, time to whip out your ornithopters :P (I’m kidding ornithopters will never see play in standard again)

        • Jacob Kodicovic

          Meanwhile…

          “Look at these cool Ixalan spoilers! Here’s a card that gives all Thopters +6/+6 and indestructible!”

  • aswanlikeneck

    Really like the card – feels like 7-mana’s worth without being too “battle-cruiser”

    sometimes the +2 will hit your opponent’s Ghonti and get a double

    the +1 means your opponent has to play around getting Mind Rotted at any point

    The minuses are a massive gear change towards closing out the game and you just gotta decide when to do it.

    Weirdly Chandra Torch of Defiance might not be a bad way to ramp him out T5

    • Hedronal

      Now that you mention it, Chandra actually seems like a great way to ramp to Bolas. Standard superfriends? :-P

      I guess Chandra’s on the badguy side now, but how long has she been an agent of Bolas? Did she just use the Gatewatch to clean up her home plane before turning on them?

      • Alexandre Donnart

        Tezzeret does that too with 2 Etherium Cells. First thing I’m building is a fat Control deck with walkers. Then an Oath deck for Samut.

        • codetaku

          Tez takes until turn 6, but overall I think he still does it more easily than chandra since it’s fully in-color and doesn’t require double of anything. Chandra requiring double-red in a bolas deck is suboptimal (though obviously the payoff would feel soooo worth it, if you manage to mind rot out your opponent’s bolas on turn 5)

          • Alexandre Donnart

            Play Tezz Turn 4, create a Cell. Land Turn 5, create a Cell, sac both, Bolas. Right ?

          • codetaku

            You’re 100% right, my bad, not sure what I was thinking. Tez now seems overall better to me than Chandra for this.

  • Tezzybros

    exile-themed mechanics in set?

    • Hedronal

      Exile so things aren’t embalmed or aftermathed against the god-pharaoh.

  • potatogod442

    Glorious card, simply glorious.

    A card worthy to the King of games.

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    The more I think on this card, the more Ashiok-y this seems. Hmmm..

    • Kahai

      inb4 ashiok already has bolas shaped horns.

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        Boy, i noticed this and speculated on a connection years before it was cool.

      • Gareth Martin

        Not even.

      • Deadly Berry

        inb4 Bolas is an Eldrazi too.

        • Kahai

          Ashiok really does have bolas horns…

        • Shagoth

          Inb4 Errata original Legends card to give him “Anhilator 7”

  • theEternalPilgrims

    With the card from either revolt, Bolas starts at 8 loyalty, meaning you can ult him on the third turn after you cast him!

    • Typhuzuzu13

      Or, hear me out here.
      Oath of nissas
      Oath of Ajani
      Four days of reckoning, filtered from your deck (trying to find a way in standard)
      Turn seven ult, gg

      • AlaAlba

        “Four days of reckoning” I couldn’t remember what this card did, so I went to gatherer looking for it, and discovered it is not a card. Could you find the real name of the card you meant? I’m actually very curious.

        • Charles Wilson Hilaman III

          Sure he ment divine reckoning

      • AlaAlba

        Did you possibly mean Dark Intimations?

    • Joseph

      Couldn’t you potentially remove 4 copies of dark intimations from your graveyard in a 60 card game and ult him the next turn?

  • Tezzybros

    perhaps in the Chibi form variant (aka planeswalker deck variant) in the deck would have a Nicol ebolas-aids dark ritual-ish but it tutors for Nicol and provides 2 of B, R, and U for 5 mana grixis sorcery card. faster nicol is faster

  • FuzzyKittyBark

    i feel like at some point someone will +2 into another Bolas and then +2 again

  • codetaku

    I don’t play commander, but I can imagine this being really popular in any commander deck that’s already in the right colors.

    Namely, “mind rot all of your opponents at once in a way that doesn’t enable delirium or dredge or reanimator decks” seems pretty solid for a +1, lol.

    • Happy The Cat

      but you could just exile their whole hand for less, I mean Identity Crisis is 6 plus it eats their graveyard,yet that doesnt see play.
      and if you really want this effect why not just have Leyline of the Void in your discard deck like a normal person? then you get this effect from your Unnerve or Tasigur’s Cruelty.

      • codetaku

        People that pretend that planeswalkers only have one activation are ridiculous. For god’s sake, it starts at _seven_ loyalty.

        • Happy The Cat

          and is a permanent, meaning unless you really work some shenanigans someone will just kill it be it a spell or just hitting him.
          pretending that by the turn clock when you could actually cast this that any respectable edh deck wont be able take it down in one shot is ridiculous.

          • Proper play can probably help you bait out removals before you play your big plainswalker (and realistically if you play your big trump card right away without any thought for dodging removal or counterspell then you’re not playing right), but yeah… plainswalkers are VERY mitigatable.

            Codetaku is still right, that it’s entirely possible to get multiple uses out of a plainswalker and that people should consider this when talking about them, but there’s a reason people try to figure out strategies or combos that protect your plainswalkers. =P

            I’ve personally never really liked the card type because they always seemed like really clunky, slow cards that do powerful effect but in boring ways. I think it’s funner to pull off cool combos with other cards, and in at least some cases that can actually be more powerful; a complete deck made by someone else that I got amidst a bunch of cards at a used store one time was a mono-white super powerful combo deck filled with mostly rares and mythics, and honestly, though it does have two copies of a plainswalker in it, playing it is probably one of the worst turns in the entire deck since everything else it does combos so powerfully. (It surrounds buffing your life with a Squadron Hawk/Martyr of Sands combo, using Ranger of Eos to get at Martyr and Serra Ascendant, and then basically bashing your opponent with Serra Ascendant and Chalice of Life/Death. The deck would probably be stronger if it replaced its two Elspeth, Knight-Errant with two more Chalice of Life.)

          • Happy The Cat

            but if you are going to be relying on a pw to finish for you in edh you could just play jms or one the Lilianas or even old bolas, and you are playing grix so it’s not like you dont have the resources to fetch out the better win cons.
            the big problem with high cost pws is they have to be OP or they suck. Look at Karn, look at Ugin. both are great, but if they were even slightly worse they couldn’t see play.

          • I think the best thing about this plainswalker is actually his -4 and +2, because assuming you can protect him you’re unlikely to be able to do 7 damage x2 for 7 mana without using SEVERAL cards in some kind of combo. And the +2 lets you mill and play cards from your opponent’s deck without mana costs. Then again it’s much slower and can be dealt with so it might not be worth it. I figure the high starting loyalty is the only reason this card might be even remotely good.

            Actually with that in mind, proper play with this might not involve using its -4 or ultimate at all. The idea then might be to simply keep him alive as long as possible, using the +1 and +2 and ideally getting as many free spells off your opponent as possible before the opponent can damage him down. Assuming they don’t use direct plainswalker removal. And I’m not sure any of this counteracts it having so high a cost, like you said.

            Whatever. I don’t know much about playing plainswalkers anyway and I don’t really intend to try to learn. They’re boring cards in my opinion. xP

          • Shagoth

            I hate the “This thing exists, so this thing is worse”
            Also JTM doesn’t finish the game, it just bothers one person/brainstorms and then every other opponent tries to kill it because of its reputation but doesn’t realize that JTMS is okay in EDH.
            Bolas deals seven damage when it enters, can cast other players overprices cards, and eat away at hands.
            Also, are we actually arguing that a PLANESWALKER won’t see play in EDH? I’ve seen Tibalt in the format.

          • Happy The Cat

            Tibalt can see play because he costs two and not seven, lets you real-bad cycle each turn, and can deal damage or steal every creature. And not being named “Bolas” or”mind sculptor” generally means he’s going to stay out for a while.
            I brought up jms because he and bolas are generally in the same boat of pws that are HVTs. People will gladly pop that vindicate or whatever and just get rid of them. But jms is just better cause while he can’t deal face he has removal, draw and fateseal and the option to super one day but for almost half the cost. When you could play this bolas you are getting into the range of people hard casting Iona or og/titan eldrazi, and seeing as you are grix chances are they will have ramp that beats yours.
            Grix walkers has never been a strong deck simply because there is a lot of name overlap for the good pws and most of them don’t play well together, but this card probably shouldn’t see play out of superfriends, otherwise he’ll be a 7 mana command that combines Stolen Goods,a better Vessel of Malignity, and Cinder Storm. Jms is just a more flexible card for what decks can play him so he is just better. Plus this card is going to cost $10 more than it should until it rotates from standard.

          • Shagoth

            You don’t know how commander works, do you.
            Someone sees a card/synergy. They are like “Hey, you know what would be hilarious/cool?” And then they make the deck. It functions but it’s probably not great.

            Also I rather pay seven mana to eat at an opponent’s deck/make them discard/deal seven damage than pay two mana to basically impair myself for three turns and then, if I haven’t destroyed the value in my hand, deal a couple damage to someone and then Tibalt dies. I’d rather discard each turn then discard at random and draw.

          • Happy The Cat

            you do know the decks that run tibalt WANT to be discarding their stuff right? most of the decks he sees play in have a bunch of grave interaction and Madness so throwing away a card to the cantrip version of Gamble is good for those decks, but the only deck this card can see play in is grix superfriends, which is easly top two worst super friends colors. and he can only see play in that deck because he has to pay 4 to deal with any threat, and he cant do it twice in a row. honestly I’d just never run him because he requires too much to be put into him for him to pay off, meanwhile I could just cast my general or have any of the numerous ~7 drops a grix deck could be playing instead.

            also I’ve been playing edh since back when it was a game we judges made to pass the time till we were needed and it was actually called elder dragon highlander for a reason, so I kinda know Commander.

          • Shagoth

            Most decks that couldn’t care less about what they discard wouldn’t want to stop with Tibalt. If a deck wants a lot of stuff discarded but not everything, you could discard the third land drop or something you don’t want to discard. There are better discard outlets than the card that actively hurts you most of the time. Mongrel, snake mongrel, Imp, that black continuous discard outlet, there’s lots that can discard what you want and avoid discarding an important land drop or something. Though, there are uses for him in mono red graveyard shenanigans. I might use him for a Hazoret “dredge” deck.

            You don’t want to play bolas in your decks? I don’t really either. But some might want to, and there’s more to the dragon than dealing seven damage to a creature, some people will play him and there’s almost nothing too weak for EDH. I mean, each to their own. I wasn’t thinking Bolas would be great in edh, I’m just saying that he feels like a casual card, but he’s strong when he hits the field.

          • Shagoth

            Planeswalker kill spells aren’t super common. Too many of the spells just kind of suck and are relegated to R/B decks, unless you can destroy ANY permanent.

          • Happy The Cat

            Pretty sure lots of people run several destroy/exile target (noncreature/nonland)permanent spells in commander, especially the ones that could be cast by the time a grix player can get a 7 mana non-creature on the battlefield

          • Shagoth

            Yeah, lots of that kind of removal is a thing now. But it’s commander, you have to be wise with your removal because someone probably let something become a 20/20 monster while they were focused on looking for removal against three different Eldrazi. Removal ain’t an argument, especially in a format where there are hideously large things everywhere. After everyone expunged their resources, landlocked players who finally drew a mountain ends up playing Zurgo Bellstriker to and finishes a player each turn because they were reduced to one by a spread out fireball from another player. Commander is chaos. Things see play in the format unless if it’s genuinely BAD, not non-competitive, bad. Like Sorrow’s path and wood elemental or five mana one fives.

          • Happy The Cat

            well, I know six mana 1/5s see play he makes it so I no longer “draw” cards, but the point still remains that you would just be better off with other cards, how often do you think you are going to draw this when everybody is out of fuel in the late game? and against that how many times are you going to draw this are just not be able to play it because it costs too much or not everybody is out of fuel so they can pick him off after one ability.
            I’m not saying this bolas is 100% bad, but he needs a very specific deck to be okay, and outside of that deck he suffers greatly.
            I’ll put it to you this way, do you have a ubr commander deck right now? go through it and find me a card you would willingly take out of the deck for a pw that in very specific instances has an okay chance at putting you ahead in the game.

          • Shagoth

            My point isn’t that he’s great or even good, but he isn’t worse than Tibalt or a six mana 1/6 that does nothing else. I don’t have a grixis commander deck, mostly because the only two I want to make is Jeleva Processor Eldrazi Jank and Nekusar, but Nekusar is something everyone does so I want to steer away from that. Actually, New Bolas would be rediculously good in Jeleva Processor Eldrazi.

      • dduuurrrr dddduuuurrrr

        Identity crisis only hits one person. Bolas hit’s the group.

        Yeah he comes out late, which is why you should have something to protect him, or he eats a vindicate instead of whatever threat you play next.

        In a 4 way, he comes out and eats 6 cards forever, AND they have to deal with him, or he does it every turn. Making an opponent deal with a threat is part of the card advantage, spells go away all on their own, once it’s resolved you players can move on. Planeswalkers are constant and need to be dealt with.

        I just don’t get your argument at all.

    • isigo

      yep i was thinking exactly the same .
      ah and i dont play commander either XD

  • Han Solo II

    “7 dmg to target opponent” because WotC want new players to know dealing 7 to your opponent is better than dealing 7 to your own face

    • captainobviously:D

      …mindslaver and so on….

      • Han Solo II

        oh yeah, that is true. Also in standard they cannot play Felidar Guardian into Marvel into Emrakul and kill you with it… wait

  • Random Guy

    In summary, very strong PW but has no removal whatsoever.

    • Dave

      -4?