• MTGFanatic

    I’m not impressed…

  • Jazzyboy1

    Finally, they’ve redeemed Nissa after her mediocre Origins print. (she was great in Standard, I’ll admit but unplayable in Eternal formats and EDH)

    Amazing synergy with Avenger of Zendikar, her -2 can buff the plants up if you don’t get to buff them with Avenger and her -7 is just really powerful. At 3cmc, this is just incredible. Going in all my green EDH decks and if I ever build modern ramp or G/x tokens, she’ll be a powerful piece.

    • kasigah

      Still using her in EDH, though.
      Fetch ALL the lands!

    • Kameenook

      Origins Nissa saw a fair amount of play for its time.

  • Hedronal

    I like both that she’s riding Ashaya, and that I can notice that she is.

  • zDRIBAS

    well she can protect itself and is 3 mana walker plus this and toownship in my abzan deck hmm..

  • Jaya

    Sure she needs to stick 4 turns to ultimate but if she can, its pretty similar to ugin if u ask me, also known as broketimate…+1 is meh protection and -2 depends on ur strategy but I wouldnt look too much into anything but that ult at 1st look.

  • Deadly Berry

    3 mana walker always welcome!

  • Eric Barton

    Let’s look at this for “Eternal” purposes.
    1.) She’s a 3 drop Walker. Under curve for her type.
    2.) She starts with 3 Loyalty and can go up to 4 first turn. She also can -2 and live first turn. Which buffs your creatures.
    3.) In the colors she would be played there are two cards that make her broken. Parallel Lives & Doubling Season.
    4.) IF you can ULT her you will net most likely 5-8 cards and life.

    Is she worth Liliana value? No.
    Is she worth Jace, the Wallet Breaker value? No.
    Is she playable in Modern and other Eternal Formats? Yes.
    – Why? The big reason is she protects herself. She’s not sending out Ashaya but it’s still protection. And it’s every turn, and it’s a +1 to boot.

    Just remember when Sorin, Solemn Visitor was spoiled and everyone complained about how stupid he was until he made Bitterblossom Tokens come to semi-competitive play. (I love tokens. <3.)

    • Jazzyboy1

      Yeah, I doubt she’ll get up higher than £30, so she’s not a super high-value card like some (douchy) collectors would demand, but she is highly playable in almost every format; and she’s really flexible in regards to what deck she’s played in because she can pretty much run the game alone, with the combination of her +1 and -2.

      She’s not a combo-enabler or an instant win-con like some people for some reason expect from planeswalkers these days, but she’s just a fantastic on-curve utility piece, that can keep your board healthy after wipes, and has synergy with a lot of other cards.

      • Eric Barton

        Yeah. A lot of people will be “She’s not Liliana powerful? PFFT.” Well, she’s not Tibalt bad either. She’s good at what she is intended to do. Make a token. Every turn. And if you need it provide a sweep of +1/+1 Counters on your creatures she can do that for you. Depending on what else this set brings you COULD see Selesnya Tokens or Abzan Tokens. We will see. :)

    • Nanya

      You forgot Primal Vigor.

      • Eric Barton

        For Commander games yessir.

    • zDRIBAS

      her +1 is so good vs liliana !

      • Eric Barton

        Well, if you just need a body to sac, it is. I personally would like to kill off the Lili so I would hopefully have an Intangible Virtue and Parallel Lives out as well. :)

  • chad

    So! lets look at the format right now..(only standard)… hangarback walker gets counters now?YES!!! how about adding counters to undergrowth champion and have blocks for days..uhm YES!!!…now lets combine this with the abzan decks out there…this combined with lets say…abzan charm or even dromokas command (FIGHT!) YES PLS!!, just soo much value in this card, can she reach liliana? maybe! There is a lot of potential.

    • Gustavo Wadas Lopes

      perhaps not that much, but indeed, perhaps she can see some standart play in a few decks.

  • Chris

    Okay card. I will grab one after the initial hype goes down. Just too many good cards to play at 3CC I would want to play competitively over this. 0/1 creature generation is not that great. I think this card will see about the same amount of play as Abzan Ascendancy.

  • DJ Pad

    If she made 1/1 plants I’d be more impressed. That being said, for 3-mana, she seems fair.

  • maximeray

    i,ll Try her in my modern elf deck as another lord. i mean in elf just having creatures is good even an 0/1! but the real dream is turn two heritage druid combo draws. lets say turn 1 lianawor elf turn 2 dwynens elite heritage druid tap them for nissa -2. now they need to decide whether to bolt heritage druid or nissa my mana producer or a source of creatures meanwhile i get to attack with all of my creatures.

  • Jazzyboy1

    If you say so. I’ll just buy 20 copies while people like you completely undervalue her and make her nice and cheap for me. Then when someone who actually knows a good card when he sees one starts her playing her competitively and wins, she’ll shoot straight back up.

    • kmk888

      I’m not trying to start a fight with anybody over her. If that is something that you want to gamble on, feel free.

      • Jazzyboy1

        I hate to be so aggressive about it, but you did just try to claim that ‘there’s no world that you would play this’ and that it’s a ‘truly awful card’. That seemed like a bit of an aggressive presumption, as if you don’t see how anybody could see value in the card.

        You seem to be missing the incredible synergy with Avenger of Zendikar; and generally, low cmc cards that make tokens every turn are considered powerful, even if those tokens are 0/1s. Works well with anything that likes creatures entering and any anthems or other buffs turn your 0/1 plants into frightening beasts that Nissa just keeps pumping out.

        The plants can also protect Nissa if your opponent attacks her. And her -2 buffs them if you don’t have another way to buff them, so she can build up your board presence on her own.

        • Chris

          Nothing here screams super-powerful. Just wait until the card hits $5-7 and grab a few. A lower tier planeswalker, but still interesting.

          • Jazzyboy1

            Of course she’s not super-powerful, but neither was Sorin and he still saw a lot of play. She’s just a strong card that’s playable in almost every format.

            People have set their expectations way too high for planeswalkers after Liliana of the Veil and Jace, the Money Snatcher.

          • Chris

            Sorin I always like, and that is still under $10 easy so more towards my point. Nissa is underwelming, but I will throw her in an EDH deck or two. Yes we are spoiled by having competitive playable planewalkers. Doesnt mean the casual circle can’t get some planewalkers sometimes (and have them be affordable.)

          • Ben Ehren

            (psst…go with money addict…it sounds more like adept)

          • Jazzyboy1

            I was referring to Mind Sculptor so it had to be M S :P

            Memory Adept definitely isn’t a money addict. He’s fairly cheap as far as planeswalker cards go.

            E: Though I just realised Vryn’s Prodigy costs more than Mind Sculptor now. Hmm… Jace, Value’s Patron? V P is hard to twist.

          • Ben Ehren

            i dont know why but i get mind sculptor and memory adept confused a lot.

        • kmk888

          The plants can’t protect her and they can’t get bigger because the card is so slow. You only activate this once per turn, which puts you into chump blocking position with the plants against almost any deck in Standard. Then the net gain is… Nissa going up? As the opponent, if my clock is Nissa going up by 1 for 4 turns before she can do anything, I’m very happy. I can pretty easily overwhelm a plant per turn or dig around for an Utter End. She just doesn’t protect herself well.

          This is the Jace, the Living Guildpact of Nissas.

          • Miranda Keith

            The plant tokens don’t protect her alone in a vacuum sure, but with that -2 you’re not playing her in a vacuum. You want to play this in a deck that’s playing early creatures to buff, ideally something token-oriented.

            She’ll be great in aristocrats and could be enough to push hardened scales into the good deck space.

          • Kameenook

            The plan’ts can’t protect her? They can’t get bigger? Did I miss the part where Nissa is a B/R card so the plants can’t block? And is this also a five mana planeswalker so it must be too slow?

            Also I don’t think Jace, the Living Guildpact is an effective comparison at all, his + ability is nothing more than card filtering, his – ability is purely tempo, although his ultimate is insane.

            Compared to Nissa, her + and – are board presence, even if they’re only 0/1s and the counter ability is really just a tempo swing.

            Oh and that ultimate……

    • wiseguy

      Lemme ask you a question. And be honest.
      Did you overrate flip Nissa when she came out and underrate flip Jace? Because if so, I have reason to doubt your evaluation of this card.
      Yes, she’s cheap. Yes, she can kinda protect herself with upticks. And her -2 is fairly strong. But she doesn’t do much else beyond that. Even her ultimate isn’t really a game winner, reminds me of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes’s ult.

      • Jazzyboy1

        No, quite the contrary. As shown by my comment below, I was really disappointed in flip Nissa(I actually went so far as to say she wasn’t even Limited-playable when I first saw her, I was so disappointed in her); and I was one of the few people on this site who actually saw how playable flip Jace was, though I arrived to the comments on him late and admittedly eventually kinda conceded to all the hate around him so I wasn’t entirely sure whether he was competitive-playable in the end.

        (my initial reaction was: WOW, flexible Snapcaster. Going in every format’. Then when I saw loads of people talking him down, I started to lose faith in his power and wasn’t sure about him. I never saw him as unplayable like a lot of people did though)

        Umm, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes’ ult is pretty much a game winner, assuming you have a decent board state, which his +1s help build up for you. And Nissa’s ultimate is fairly easy to get to, considering you can play her turn 3 or earlier and build her up from there. If you do get to it, it’s a powerful play. Doesn’t win you the game instantly but certainly helps you win the game.

        I’ll admit that this Nissa just isn’t very interesting. She’s not going to completely turn a game in your favour and let you scream “NONE MAY STAND BEFORE THE MIGHT OF ZENDIKAR” like you could with Nissa, Worldwaker. But she’s 3 mana and slowly but surely builds up your board presence. She’s the Ajani Goldmane of Nissas might be the best comparison to an existing planeswalker I can think of. None of his abilities screamed WIN-CON(his ult avatar didn’t have trample so not really a win-con) but they were powerful and his +1 and ult synergised well, just like how Nissa’s +1 and -2 synergise well.

  • EJ

    It’s not an awful card. It only costs 3 mana. The ability to put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control is pretty powerful in certain decks and in certain formats. It almost always costs 4 to 6 mana for cards which will do this. (Ajani Steadfast, Ajani Goldmane, Cathars’ Crusade, Gavony Township as examples). Heck, if it was just a 3-mana sorcery whose only ability was to put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control, it would be strictly better than Titania’s Boon, for whatever that’s worth.

    Anyway, even in Standard, you could turn 1 Hardened Scales, turn 2 Hangarback walker with 2 +1 / +1 counters on it, turn 3, use this to make your Hangarback Walker a 4/4. And if someone blows up the walker, you might be able to put more +1 / +1 counters on the Thopter tokens and plant tokens.

    Anyway, it seems decent. I agree that I would be surprised if it eventually settles outside of the $5 to $10 range, but I would be equally surprised if it was under $5 as I would if it was over $15. I do admit that for the early part of Standard, it’s possible for this card to be stupidly priced. Nissa, Vastwood Seer was over $30 for a time, nearly double what Jace was then. Nissa Worldwaker was over $40 when it was in Standard, and it cost 5 mana. The original Nissa Revane is still in the $15 range.

    OTOH, there will be a lot of downward pressure on the price of any card in this set that isn’t “Expedition Wasteland”. In BFZ, Ob Nixilis and Kiora are both pretty solid cards, but they’re only running about $5 to $7 right now. A lot of that has to do with the Steam Vents Lottery.

  • Ben Ehren

    dissapointing +1 you say? well as you say that you forget…her -2 is amazing. and its only -2. giving her too strong of a +1 would make her insane, so these 0/1s help balance her out.

    token decks: value
    sacrifice decks: value
    my weird endless-one and gleam-of-authority deck: value. also that deck is fun, don’t judge.

    • Gustavo Wadas Lopes

      Judge? I’m only another player…. that alredy had some crase ideas.

  • Garrison Tran

    i feel like decks with G/W is going to be very strong cuz of this and gideon, ally of zendikar being in the same set

  • DJ Pad

    To be honest, I think i’d prefer the Origins Nissa in most decks, aside from maybe a token-sac type deck (and to be fair there is a decent amount of support for that in standard). I think the mana cost definitely makes it interesting, though objectively it needs a decent amount of support and I see it a lot closer to something like Ajani, Caller of the Pride than anywhere near Liliana.

  • Chaospyke

    I’m looking at all the comments saying this Nissa is bad, but my friend is running G/B sac deck and this great for him. Her synergy with catacomb sifter is sick. She’s not a huge threat, so your opponent is likely to leave her alone long enough to ult her or get of several of her -2 before they decide they’ve had enough. And of course Hardened Scales.

    So she’s not a huge bomb, but she’ll put in work.

    Also Tiny leaders will love her

    • Pulverizerg

      Ye, i play BGsac deck too and i want it so much

  • Storm Crow

    Anyone else disliking the amount of Nissas being printed? We went from one to four in like a year (including this one). I get that WOTC is going for more of a continuous story, but seriously.

    • Hedronal

      For me it’s not so much about Nissa herself, rather that it’s the same people with similar abilities for a stretch. It also annoyed me when I attempted to trade with someone, and it became a trick to remember what the most recent printing of a planeswalker was. I’m all for more planeswalkers, but not this many of the same characters with multiple standard printings.

      • Jazzyboy1

        That is why I don’t get the people complaining when a card is ‘out of character’. The planeswalker characters have plenty of different powers and skills, so why should they stick to one speciality constantly? I would be disappointed if we just got a worse functional reprint of Worldwaker like some people seem to be expecting, and Jace has had 6 cards, almost all with similar abilities, so people constantly compare them to each other and claim that one is strictly better than the others. Kinda the same for Chandra.

        However, this Nissa has very different abilities to any of her previous prints, so I don’t see what the problem is here. Flavourfully similar but mechanically very different.

        I do hope the Origins Five stop being a focus after Innistrad though, so that other planeswalkers can have some time in the spotlight. There are some planeswalkers that have never even had cards, so it would be nice if we finally got cards for them.

        • Hedronal

          I agree on all points. Fortunately, there are also still planeswalker slots left in Shadows, or at least the set after it.

        • Miranda Keith

          I feel like they’re just going to continue printing Jaces with various watered-down versions of the abilities JTMS has until they eventually just accidentally reprint JTMS.

          • Hedronal

            By the time we’ve had that power creep, Jace will have aged into Dumbledore.

    • Ben Ehren

      its cool except one thing…. WHERE IS GARRUK.

      you turn him into an expensive murder-machine, out for vengeance, and then just…ignore him…

      • Jazzyboy1

        He’s probably half-avoiding Jace and his friends because Jace curbstomped him last time they met. Jace could have killed him if he’d wanted to.

        We might see him after SoI though, hunting whatever planeswalkers are in the next new plane.

        • Hedronal

          If only someone would point Garruk at Nicol Bolas. Perhaps barring eldrazi, Bolas may be the toughest ‘prey’ in the known multiverse.

        • Happy The Cat

          lol last time Garruk met jace he was cross dressing as Liliana and Garruk to leave before he killed jace. last we heard from Garruk was right after that when Vronos, an unprinted pw from Innistrad, told garruk that avacyn wanted Garruk to come back to Innistrad so she could heal him. Garruk then killed Vronos.

        • boogers

          I don’t think Jace has ever “curb stomped” anybody. I don’t think Jace knows how to curb stomp someone. Book stomp? More likely. Mind stomp? Totally. But not curb stomp. Jace is not a G like that. Now Koth? Koth would curb stomp a dude. Even more so Ob Nixilis. But never Jace.

      • Melissa Juice

        You’ve never read a book, have you?

        A good storyteller is patient. You’ll see Garruk again.

    • Aaron Gray-Sitch

      Yea, good thing no other color reprints this many of the same planeswalker… wait a second there are HOW MANY JACES?!

      • Storm Crow

        true but i don’t like that either.

  • A small walker that can make its own blockers and can Gavony your board is not bad at all. I may need a playset of these for safe keeping.

  • Kameenook

    I honestly did not notice this card is three mana, as such, it is “insane”

  • MrAptronym

    This is what I think planeswalkers should look like. The abilities are useful, low enough cost to be playable, and it can protect itself, but it isn’t the kind of card that just warps the entire game around it. It doesn’t just single-handedly win a game.

    When planeswalker abilities get too oppressive I don’t like how games play out. I don’t think magic is as much fun with super-strong planeswalkers. “I win” ultimates even more so. I was afraid with their new story situation they would be pushing planeswalkers more than ever, but this and new chandra seem fun to play with AND against.

    • Kameenook

      Generally speaking, “I win” ultimate seem just right, because they’re very rare, so you really should be rewarded for them.

      This being said, I’m not sure I can think of any planeswalker ultimate that really “wins” without question, they generally just put you extremely close to victory, and this card is no exception, even if for some godforsaken reason you have only three lands when you ultimate her, drawing three cards and gaining three life on top of whatever else you generated with her should make it more than worth your three mana.

      • MrAptronym

        I am fine with big advantage, you should definitely get a big reward for getting one to go off. ‘I win’ effects to me would be like Jace the Mind Sculptor’s “Exile all cards from target player’s library, then that player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library.” or Karn Liberated’s “Restart the game, leaving in exile all non-Aura permanent cards exiled with Karn Liberated. Then put those cards onto the battlefield under your control.” Ajani vengeant and Nicol bolas are close but not quite. (and the walkers themselves aren’t as good) I have never seen one of those go off and not had the player win the game by the end of their next turn. (except Ugin, that usually takes a few painful turns of a new game)

        It might be generally hard to pull off, but I don’t like abilities that nearly ignore the game that preceded them. I suppose they are somewhat fair in that you are unlikely to get them off unless your board-state was good enough to keep your opponent off of them, I just don’t think the game is as fun when getting a planeswalker out and turtleing your way to victory is a dominant strategy. I Like ultimates that advance your position, not necessarily just eliminate an/all opponent (s).

        • Kameenook

          Well JTMS and Karn make you big favorites to win, they’re by no means guarantees, and with the exception of Karn, who costs seven mana, it takes a while to get up to that point.

          Problem with jace being three very relevant abilities though, ultimate is gravy on some freakin’ buffet of mashed potatoes.

          • MrAptronym

            Again, my issues aren’t with balance so much as diminishing the fun of the game. JtMS is more or less all around unfun though.

          • Kameenook

            Losing isn’t usually fun, but losing to planewalker ultimates is probably one of the more fun ways, given its rarity, doubly so for the winning player

            Imagine you and a friend were gem mining, and he/she found a really rare gem, you’re not as excited as him/her, and you kind of wish it was your gem, but you’re still pretty damn excited.

          • MrAptronym

            If an opponent pulls off a really daring move and gets a victory it’s great. I cast Ulamog at a BFZ prerelease only to have my opponent cast Turn Against and mill me out with my own (Foil) eldrazi titan on his next turn. That was a memorable match and we all had a great time. I am not very competitive, I almost always play bad concept decks anyway so winning is not much of a concern for me. I do think some cards an abilities just make the game less interesting, variable and fun though. This is as much true when I use them as when my opponents do. (For instance I had a Griselbrand EDH deck before he was banned because I liked him and my friends were running the angelic legends. I ended up putting it away after a single night and apologizing.)

            In my experience, losing to the ultimate on a card like Karn or JtMS, Ugin or Ajani Vengeant is more a sign that it was a bad game overall. (Or my opponent has a doubling season) and that I spent several turns futilely trying to stop it while they stalled out. Even if things were pretty close, they don’t really care what the board was like. You can’t do anything with them, you just win barring your opponent maybe killing you next turn. Multiplayer they are even worse.

            Again, I am not anti-ultimate, I have played cool games winning and losing with different planeswalker ultimates. (I especially like ones like Elspeth Knight Errant, Tamiyo or Liliana of the Dark Realms have, a big advantage that changes how you play) the issue I have is when a planeswalker overall becomes too much of an oppressive force on the board.

            I am not a fan of ultimates like those, but the point I am trying to make is that when you make a planeswalker that is already very powerful and add an ultimate that ends the game I think it makes the game less fun. Planeswalkers produce value every turn. I believe that powerful ones that dominate the game when they’re out or can be your win condition tend to lead to players turtleing up when they play them and drawing games out in an unfun way.

            Nissa here represents something I can get behind. Cheap enough to run, advances your board on the +, but has a -2 powerful enough to absolutely justify when the time is right and an ultimate that advances your board without just handing the game over. She just seems like a fun card to play with and against, and for the johnny in me personally she gets me thinking about how best to utilize her.

          • Kameenook

            I agree in your casual anti-spike spirit, I’m the same way, but generally find that most, if not all, planeswalker ultimates are fun ways to go.

            You mentioned Doubling Season, and that’s not a great one, I agree. Other “problems” I guess I have is rapidly accelerated planeswalkers, which I have been guilty of myself.

            Turn 2 Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath only to get an emblem not long after because my playgroup is often fairly slow (and my decks included) is not usually a fun way to start for everyone else.

            Cheers!

  • Emiliano Valori

    Really good in an abzan aggro deck. Plants can give body to the Voice tokens or became 1/2 with a Lege in play. while the second ability can pumps lingering’s spirits.

    • Gord

      Also good in Rhino mirrors.

    • Chris

      0/1 creatures are not exactly built for aggro decks. Abzan Ascendancy arguably can do what this card does, but gives you better defense against board wipes and gives you 1/1 creatures (with flying.) This is a fun card, but in competitive decks there are just so many better options.

    • Lucas Pearson

      i agree with you this will do wonders in modern but i just don’t know how well it will stand up to gideons and jayce in the current standard builds

  • Jordan Orzolek

    This and hardened scales will both be in standard for a couple months which will be nasty!

    • MTGFanatic

      …but you need to wait every 3 turns to use her 2nd ability if you don’t want her to die.

      • MrAptronym

        You get one use and get to keep her around to start pooping out ferns, which it pretty good regardless.

      • Happy The Cat

        if your hardened scales token deck cant win with a global +2/+2, might not be nissa’s fault

  • Kameenook

    Titania’s Boon. 3G, that’s more splashable, but one mana more.

    Titania’s Boon, unplayable to say the least on an empty board.

    Titania’s Boon, doesn’t leave you with a planeswalker on one loyalty.

    Titania’s Boon, doesn’t have the potential to just churn out plants until getting a land-fueled sphinx’s revelation.

    It’s a three mana planeswalker, don’t expect it to churn out 2/2s every turn, Brimaz will give you kitties, and Nissa will make and arm plants.

    • kmk888

      It’s true the comparison is not perfect. I was using hyperbole to express how I felt. It’s true she leaves behind a planeswalker and that she can pump 0/1s. My opinion is just that my 3 mana is probably better spent elsewhere. The only chance I see for this card is together with 4 Gideons because their abilities overlap so much.

      • Kameenook

        I may have jumped on the hype train too fast, but it never stops, and with some VERY little testing, the -2 is the more relevant of the three abilities, but I still want to pop off the ultimate on her!

  • Dylan Dougherty

    Cannot wait to get this into my Simic Deck.

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    I keep looking at this and expecting to find something about this I don’t like. But I can’t, damn it. I just can’t. It’s a perfectly splashable green planeswalker. Any deck with green can utilize her.

    • Storm Crow

      Ha!! You reveal yourself. It’s green and that makes it bad!!!!! A true Storm Crow would point this out you blind fool!!!

      I’m just kidding. I agree this seems pretty good, but the problem lies in the fact that it doesn’t quite fits with the more traditional green ramp + large creatures with trample idea. It’s definitely better in the token (or even elf) based half of green.

    • Jazzyboy1

      I think the only thing people are bothered about is the fact that she makes 0/1s and not 1/1s. But seriously?! She can buff them herself, anthems can buff them, anything else that throws out mass counters can buff them, Avenger of Zendikar can buff them a lot, etc.

      So yeah, she is a perfectly splashable green planeswalker and she’s very good for the mana cost.

    • Happy The Cat

      how about that it’s not voice of resurgence crossed with avenger of zendikar like the name suggests? her ult could have been an emblem with “Whenever an opponent casts a spell during your turn or when a planeswalker you control dies, put a 0/1 green Plant creature token onto the battlefield for each land you control”
      it’s something!

  • Ragon

    Can’t kill Siege Rhino. 0/10

    • James Augustine

      April will kill the Rhino ;)

  • Ophmar

    Simply pooping out a 0/1 every turn for 2 green/1 colourless is great. +1/+1 counters on all your creatures? I’ll take that! I also like that X life/X card thing! I love the balance, and I may even grow to like Nissa… despite feeling somewhat saturated by her general presence of late… no… I still don’t like her… but she’s great! I feel so conflicted…

    • Jazzyboy1

      Yeah, I hate the character but her cards are always at least interesting and fairly well balanced.

      • Ophmar

        I agree with you that one so far! She’s a beast in all the manifestations of her I’ve seen!

  • Happy The Cat

    anyone notice that green got the quick aggro pw while red got the late game win condition? Isn’t that backwards or is GDW a thing now? I mean they do have four playable one-drops and between two and four they have more power than any other color.

    • Melissa Juice

      Huh?

      • Happy The Cat

        GDW, like RDW but with green

        • Storm Crow

          it took me too long to remember that RDW stands for red deck wins. Also wasn’t there a dirt cheap mono green aggro deck a while ago?

          • Happy The Cat

            I think that was devotion? might have been green aggro with a handful of good green cards that happened to have devotion. only thing that cost much was nykthos cause casual and edh loved it, and nissas if you ran them

  • ye

    What’s the feeling on price for this card? I’m really terrible at judging the worth of Planeswalkers and I only want Nissa for her second ability, as I run a GR counter deck with my main man Kalonian Hydra that could really use her -2. Is her latest incarnation likely to be cheap ($5 or less), average ($10-$15), or expensive ($20 or more)? I’m asking for about a month or two after release.

  • Lucas Pearson

    she definetly more apealing ther last version for me atleast i didnt like the fac tthat the toxen was legendary made her kind of meh

  • selesnyawarden

    I like this version of Nissa even though she makes no elemental tokens, this still apeals to the lore behind the fact that she now uses the leylines of Zendikar, her home world for battle.Therefore in a way, she is creating vegetable life as part of her fighting arsenal. I wanna build a casual vorthos deck with her, and avenger of Zendikar and other elemental related cards to showcase her connection and power to the story. Also, cute little plants, what harm could they pose?

    I am happy to have contributed to this. Thank you Wizards of the coast.

  • Þórgnýr Thoroddsen

    I am thinking of a deck on the lines of Nissa, The voice of Zendikar + Hardened Scales + Hangarback Walker combos, with a variety of +1/+1 spells.

    Your thoughts?