• Hedronal

    I’m having a hard time thinking of a zombie deck that wouldn’t want this.

    • Jay Kilian

      It’s got to be the new 2 drop in most zombie decks. Return other zombies to the battlefield is sick with any sac engine. I play monoblack aggro, though not entirely zombie, but this may make me go full zombie.

      • Atarka Effreet

        Aggro got a new playmate! (sorry zurgo, you never had any friends)

  • Taxle

    i came….

  • Nebulium

    Grimgrin edh just got a very nice present.

  • De’Elgathor

    LOVING the callback to Endless Ranks art, can’t wait to starting building zombies

    • nostars69

      sack to kalitas then send back to hand? over and over again? :)

      • Jay Kilian

        Brutal. Any sac engine, really. And the X ability is like a rally on a stick (for Zombies). Geralf’s messenger over and over and over.

  • Anon

    Why does it have a R and not a M on it? Down where it shows the rarity .

  • Ryū

    Take me to church,
    I’ll worship like a corpse at the shrine of your flies,
    I’ll give you some parts and you can stitch me a wife,
    Offer me that walking death,
    Good Avacyn, let me devour your life.

    • SmolderingButcher

      Savage.

  • nostars69

    Im running a RB deck with 2 drana, 2 kalitas, 4 dark dwellers and a s~~t ton of removal. this is so gonna help me pump kali. love it.

  • Tye

    This card is absolutely insane for control. They finally didn’t put “I cannot block” on a recurring creature.

    • wwww

      It’s also insane against control.

      • kmk888

        More insane against. Control can’t make full use out of the last ability.

  • luminous saiyan

    look at the lights above the card, and small fingers at the bottom, this is a 10 ft card

  • MrAptronym

    Now this is a fun zombie card. Really seems like it will create that inevitable, ever-growing zombie feeling.

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    I LIVE, I DIE, I LIVE AGAIN! WITNESS ME!

    • Atarka Effreet

      Just when the 4-mana instant exile (black white) from Khans rotates out..

      • Jazzyboy1

        ? I just did a search and can’t find any black white creature exilers from Khans.

        Regardless, from BFZ and Oath, there’s Complete Disregard, Titan’s Presence, Stasis Snare, and Grip of Desolation.

        • Atarka Effreet

          Flavor text
          “I came seeking a challenge all I found was you”
          Never mind, as the above cards make it irrelevant

        • eltratzo

          He meant utter end. (which exiles more than just creatures but technically he didn’t specify ^^)
          besides that, your point still stands. there is enough exile to propably prevent graveyard shenanigans from becoming too silly.

        • Hedronal

          I believe the card in question is Utter End.

    • Ryū

      Witness me.

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        Carry me into Valhalla, shiny and chrome!

        • Ryū

          OH, WHAT A DAY, WHAT A LOVELY DAY!!!!

          • Dr. Burn Crow

            I can’t like this enough.

  • Zombie

    Remember when I was talking about R/B needing a great Menace and/or Madness card to make it a thing?

    It got it.

    This will be one of the chase Mythics of the set, calling it now. And even if it isn’t, I’m still picking up a foil playset because not only is the callback art to Endless Ranks of the Dead beautiful, the card as a whole is just amazing.

    I might even brew this into my current Zombie Company deck in Modern.

    As for the RB shell as a whole, now it just needs a few solid Madness pieces.

    With a great threat with Menace that comes down early, the deck now has multiple lines of attack beyond discarding Incorrigible Youths to Heir of Falkenrath.

    • Zackiskip

      do you have a decklist that i can look at, i have my own company zombie deck that im working on. i can link mine if you want to see it.

      • Zombie

        I threw this together per your request, it’s nothing fancy but I hope it gives you an idea of what I’m going for with the deck:

        http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/zombie-company-1/

        (Excuse the username discrepancy, it’s what I use on Reddit.)

    • nostars69

      think kalitas will fit into all zombie decks now too.

  • The flavor of the card is AMAZING. I’m nerding out here.

    Not to mention 2/2 Menace for BB. The recursion (and reanimate) effects are gravy, and actually feel mythic in function.

  • kmk888

    A mythic bear to rival Voice of Resurgence.

    Gives new life to:
    Standard Zombies (obviously)
    Modern Zombies
    Modern Devotion (Geralf’s Messenger and Gray Merchant are zombies)
    Legacy Zombardment

    <3 Thank you Wizards!

  • Exyrea

    I HAVE A INTENSE NEED

  • traveler

    8th is card is so flavorful I want George a Romano to sign it :). Great card for sure.

    • traveler

      *this

      • Dan

        THAT is what you corrected? Good luck getting whoever George Romano is to sign your card

  • Atarka Effreet

    Does NOBODY see the link to Endless Ranks of the dead???

    • taulpucci

      http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=234430&type=card I thought about this too! its so cool, like a continuation of endless ranks

    • Jazzyboy1

      Anybody that’s seen Endless Ranks of the Dead before sees the link. It’s very obvious. It’s just not all that noteworthy, so noone else is making a big fuss about it.

      • Atarka Effreet

        Yes, ik, I just did not see the below comments (sorry)

    • BalthasarHohenheim

      Which one? The art or the fact that is card is has the same name as the intro pack with Endless Ranks of the dead in it?

      • Atarka Effreet

        Why not both?

    • De’Elgathor

      I mean, I had mentioned it before, but my thread got immediately coopted into something else.

  • Spirit

    So are you allowed to pay for itself and another to come back (assuming you have the mana) or do you have to choose one or the other each time it dies? I’m still a fairly new player, show mercy!

    • MTG=mogis the god.

      Its ok Spirit the rules and text can confuse even old players. When it says another it mean return one besides this card. so its abbility can’t work on it unless your using it on anther one already in your graveyard. hope this helps.

      • Happy The Cat

        well, not exactly. you are allowed to use the both of it’s on death triggers so you can return this to your hand and pay x for a zombo

    • wwww

      Yes, because it’s two separate triggered abilities, so both effects will happens when he dies (you choose which one you want to do first).

    • Hedronal

      Yes, you can do that. Both abilities trigger onto the stack, and then resolve independently of each other.

  • maraxusofk

    Obvious tournament staple bumped up ythic cash grab by jotc is obvious.

    • maraxusofk

      If bloodghast was reprinted today, jotc would obviously print it at mythic if this card is anything to go by

  • Daniel Kaine Allen

    Not only is this an amazing and obvious staple in just about any zombie deck, but that is probably the most beautiful art ive ever seen on a zombie card. If i could i would get 12 of these right this very second.

    • Daniel Kaine Allen

      Just to add to it, if you ever see this card for less than $10 (which i seriously doubt is gonna happen) buy them… buy them all lol

  • Alex Egertsen

    Ashes of the Fallen look it up you will see what I am talking about

    • fellwynd

      Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah talk about a toolkit deck

    • Jazzyboy1

      But why would you wanna do that when you just can play Zombie Tribal?

      Zombie Tribal > Everything else

      • James Owen Ivey Jr.

        its for the creatures u throw into the deck that arent zombie, like i’ve done

  • Blahblahblahbla

    Too bad Priest of Gix isn’t a zombie.

  • DirtyHoboLord

    Every time I see a mythic printed with such a low cmc, it makes me sad. Mythics are supposed to be awesome, rare, and powerful cards with huge story importance or some sort of intimidation factor. I mean, yeah, this card’s powerful and will probably be worth lots of cash but this does not feel mythic. It’s just a relatively powerful zombie. What’s the big deal about a zombie that can come back and maybe bring some other zombies with it sloowly? I feel like other mythic creatures look at this tiny thing and cry inside because back in their day, it took a little more than some reanimation to be labelled “mythic”.

    • wwww

      This card is the “too strong for limited” type of card. It’s at this rarity so it doesn’t show up too often in draft/sealed.

      • DirtyHoboLord

        Oh, I know why they made it mythic but I still think it shoulda been a rare as it is now. If they made it some cool legendary creature or like a threat that would actually pose some sort of threat to planeswalkers or something, I would agree with its rarity. They wouldn’t even need to change the mechanics. It’s just that whenever wizards prints a cheap mythic like this, it’s just another random creature. Why? Why can’t it be something actually intimidating or relevant to the plot?

        Relentless Dead as a title could be applied to like, any other zombie.

        • wwww

          To be honest, I agree with you. It should have been a rare, even if it means there one more guy that get the card in the whole limited tournament, so the mythic spot could be used for something more appropriate.

        • Happy The Cat

          they print this at mythic so it’s mathematically lower odds for people to get their playsets so that they can drive up prices for a card that any black deck in standard is going to need to be viable.
          you want to know what they could have done? made this mythic a legendary. think about it. it’s not A Relentless Undead, it’s THE Relentless Undead. I wouldn’t even mind having to play against the thirty something edh decks with it when it comes out. That would have been cool flavor using a very powerful name to describe exactly what this and it’s tribe do.
          If you told me this card’s name three years ago when tribes still existed I would have told you it was a zombie lord with a fun recursion mechanic now it’s just going to be another over priced zombie that people buy for edh thinking that a hyper aggro 2/2 is what you want when aiming at forty wizard hats

          • DirtyHoboLord

            That’s exactly what I’m saying. No card like this should ever be mythic unless it has a reason for it flavor wise. Relentless Dead could be basically any zombie so it doesn’t seem mythic. If it were legendary, though, I’d be all for it. Wizards has rarely done that with their cheap mythics, though. They usually give mythic legendaries high cmc’s.

          • ForeverLaxx

            “so that they can drive up prices for a card”

            You do understand that Wizards does not profit from the secondary market, yes? They make the vast majority of their money from card stores buying supplies.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            By making cards that will be pricey on the secondary market, they drive up how many packs they will sell in the end because people will want to take a gamble for the expensive cards. WoTC does profit from the secondary market, just not directly. Wizards made way more money from bfz and ogw than they have from another set in a long time. You can say that this had nothing to do with expeditions or eldrazi modern but you would be wrong.

          • ForeverLaxx

            That’s not how it works at all. Please get educated.

        • Hedronal

          So you’re saying that all mythics should big and/or plot relevant?

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Yeah. That’s what I’m saying.

          • Hedronal

            In that case, given the limited amount of plot availability for any part that matters, most plot people would have to be moved to mythic, and be small. Then the plot has to change to make room for the lowering of the average character size/power level.

            The rest of the mythic slots would be moved to big things, meaning that the rest of things would either be bigger and therefor have higher cmcs to keep up, or smaller to maintain the average given that there are no more small mythics.

            Also, those things with complicated and/or too-good-for-much-limited effects would have to be kept at higher rarity for the current reasons, meaning the average character would be complicated, and that those big things would be frequently complicated big things, which isn’t so much the point of being big.

            There could also be less mythics to compensate, either making the chance of getting one at all even smaller, or increasing the circulation of the few that there would be, rendering them appreciably closer to being regular rares.

            What method do you have to avoid or deal with these issues, and/or what reason do you have to function with them if not?

            Also, on the “big” part, I would like to point out that size isn’t a matter of simple power, toughness and/or keywords. Effects and abilities can also be big or powerful, like this one. Recurring itself easily while also recurring other zombies is powerful, especially in a block that supports zombie tribal.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            All you have to do is make your mythics threatening. “Relentless Dead” is a name that can be applied to any zombie and flavorwise, its abilities are that it can come back to life and that it can bring other zombies back to life slowly. Does this sound mythic to you? Cause to me it sounds like just another friggin’ zombie that deserves to be a rare.

          • Hedronal

            Is this not threatening to you? When something gets talked about as much as on this page as a highly playable in a constructed format that isn’t commander, it tends to be definitely threatening. Being threatening doesn’t come from the name. Bringing something back this way, including recurring itself, while also being a cheap to cast creature should and does sound mythic, especially given that it’s something that will have its tribe supported in limited, and very supported in constructed formats.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Not like that. The card is good. That’s not what I’m debating, I’m debating that flavorwise, it does not deserve to be mythic. It’s a cheap zombie and a boring, generic one at that. If wizards wants to focus the game on the planeswalker protagonists, mythic as a rarity should be reserved for cards that pose a threat to them or prove how powerful they or their allies are. I look at this zombie and I look back at any planeswalker and I can’t see how they are even comparable on a power standpoint. This thing just resurrects itself while the planeswalkers and eldrazi of the mythos bend entire planes with their power.

          • Hedronal

            Flavor and story status does not in any way determine rarity. If it did, it would break limited to Theros’s underworld and back.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Not necessarily. Theros actually did a really good job with their mythics. I felt that all of them (or most of them) deserved the spot they got. The set didn’t feel like any of its mythics were thrown in there just to fill that mythic spot like this thing does.

          • Hedronal

            This one has its flavor spot fit by the art, functionally it’s more like it was made to fit a zombie slot.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Then don’t name it relentless dead. Give it some flavor. I don’t care how good the card is, whether it will break secondary market, whether it will make it into every black deck in standard, or whether zombie edh players drool over its very existence, this is just a normal zombie. Mythic is a word used to entail something of legend. A myth is a tale passed down to describe something truly amazing, unbelievable, incredible, or whatever you want to call that. This does not fit that criteria. There are so many rare creatures that reanimate themselves or others, what reason does this card have flavorwise to justify its increased rarity? As it stands now, it has none. It’s just an above average zombie.

          • Hedronal

            It doesn’t need a reason flavorwise. Flavor is, should be, and for limited needs to be, completely irrelevant to rarity.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Well, that’s what I’m debating. I don’t think that’s how it should be.

          • Hedronal

            I’m all for more flavor, but it’s not what makes something its rarity, nor should a rarity necessitate being relevant. This is a zombie recursion engine of mythic-level power, and a name that fits one of those is going to fit nearly all of them, unless it’s forced to be legendary, which is warping the story unnecessarily.

          • MTG fan

            It has a reason of being a card. It has flavor, just think of the card’s setting and the abilities are symbolic to its name. Relentless Dead= persistent dead.

    • ForeverLaxx

      This is not what Mythic was supposed to be originally, barring the caveat they laid out in the beginning about Planeswalkers always being a Mythic. Mythic was supposed to be a rarity reserved for very niche strategy cards or cards that encouraged a deck be utilized to take specific advantage of it. They weren’t supposed to completely outstrip competing options with their over-the-top power level. Unfortunately, once Wizards printed Baneslayer at the Mythic rarity, their original stance on the rarity went out the window.

      Now we have players like you complaining that the Mythic rarity isn’t being used for powerhouse bombs.

      • DirtyHoboLord

        That’s not at all what I’m saying. I don’t want the cards to necessarily be great but that they appear to be. My favorite mythic in this game is Lux Cannon. It’s not a great card except in Vorel EDH. This card IS a “powerhouse bomb” and that’s my problem. It’s only mythic because it’s good, not because it deserves to be flavorwise.
        You completely missed my point.

        • ForeverLaxx

          Except it’s not particularly strong on its own, requires support or a deck to work with it optimally, and your basic Zombie Tribal will have to cut potentially stronger options to make room for it.

          It’s good, but it requires the right deck. That’s what a Mythic is supposed to be.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            Well, when it comes out and makes its way into every single standard deck it can fit into, you come back and tell me whether this is what a mythic is supposed to be.

          • ForeverLaxx

            I take it that you don’t build decks of your own. If you did, you’d understand why it’s not particularly splashable and loses a lot of value if you’re not running zombies. If this card is played a lot, then that means zombies (or potentially MonoBlack Control) is getting played a lot and it’s just another tool in their arsenal. Outside of zombies, it’s just not worth the investment.

            But you go ahead and pretend this card is an unstoppable force just waiting to be released.

          • DirtyHoboLord

            I didn’t say it was splashable. It’ll be in mono-black. Yes it’s better when it’s used with zombies but this is Innistrad. And gravecrawler was once a thing in Innistrad. That card also required zombies and you know what? It was expensive.

          • ForeverLaxx

            “when it comes out and makes its way into every single standard deck it can fit into”.

            This is what you said, and that means you believe the card to be splashable. If you don’t know the terminology, then don’t use it. I’m fully aware that this is Innistrad and that means there’s going to be lots of Zombies, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to be strong. There was more at work than just Gravecrawler last time around and Wizards seems to be aware of it this time. For starters, this card requires double black to play and requires a black mana to recur, except that recursion is to the hand instead of to play. The recursion is also dependent on the creature being killed instead of simply being in the graveyard. Not only is this effect slower, it’s also more expensive and conditional. Plus, this card is costed as an early-game card but has a second effect that rewards late-game play. Often, you won’t have this creature available to recur a fat zombie when you need it to, which means you have to dedicate more card space to recur this creature specifically to use it’s death trigger; but why do that when you can just recur the fat zombie directly instead?

            Gravecrawler had other things going for it that made it strong beyond the speed and relative splashability of the card. The surrounding zombies and the Undying effect helped enable multiple recursions, most specifically creatures like Geralf’s Messenger, Grimgrin, and even additional copies of Gravecrawler itself. In addition, Gravecrawler has strong value and power in eternal formats, not just when it was standard. When a card is useful and powerful in both Modern and Standard, that drives the prices up. The rest of the zombies haven’t been spoiled, so it’s unclear just how strong the synergy with them and this card is going to be. However, unless there are suitable other zombies and proper support, this card won’t even make a splash in standard. It’s far more likely to see this card in eternal formats, however.

            This is why I don’t rely on kneejerk reactions to things and analyze cards relative to other options and surrounding support. In a vacuum, a lot of things can look too powerful.

    • MTG fan

      This is flavorful. This card obviously represents the undead horde with you being their master/necromancer, attacking the Avacyn church. Extra mana= resurrection. Menace is included because it is intimidating to see an entire horde of zombies coming your way.

  • Dominic Ng

    Obviously Gisa EDH is gonna love this

    • DJ Pad

      GIsa should be getting you 12 zombies off Phyrexian Dreadnought or a ton of zombies of phyrexian devourer/Hatred/ etc, not durdling around with this stuff.

  • Happy The Cat

    hey another boring zombie that will cost $10 after it’s standard tour for no reason. say hello to the new master of waves everyone and enjoy him while he’s here, cause once he rotates he’s gonna be useless.

  • A Simple Moose Token

    So… imagine blue/black modern zombies now. They have SO much value, and now this as a blocker/sac engine/combo piece. Imagine this with skaab ruinator, liliana (heretical), maybe a diregraf captian, gravecrawlers, geralf’s messenger and a sac engine + some disruption primarily in the form of discard and a few victim of nights with maybe a bit of blue shenanigans/countermagic (spell pierce/snare for typical graveyard hate). I think that could be fairly competitive, at least as much as modern fairies. Something like that anyway.

  • Deadly Berry

    Looks good at first glance. You will either play it asap or save it until you have 4 or 5 mana to make use of its reanimating ability. If you go for the former it’s a 2/2 for BB which is sort of meh, if you have 1 mana available it can come back, but it won’t put a lot of pressure due to no real threatening aggro ability. Mid game you have to save mana to reanimate, depriving you from doing something in your own turn, and your opponent can play around it easily by killing it and forcing you to either send it back to hand or making you reanimate something. It’s a very slow creature and its real potential is reanimating another one in your graveyard to always have 2 in play, making them an annoyance mid/late game in T2.

    As for modern, some might compare it to bloodghast, but this one is more on the side of reanimating one of your buddies if you have the sacrificing means. A problem I see is finding something worth to reanimate, as Gravecrawler is 1cmc and reanimates rather easily so it’s not a reasonable target, since there aren’t many other 1 mana zombies you would end up reanimating a 2cmc zombie, thus raising its mana cost: BB mana to cast + X sacrifice cost + 2 creature CMC+ B return to hand = 2BBB mana minimum. It won’t probably be used in high tier modern but it’s still very fun, could run 1 or 2 in any zombies deck.

    tl;dr: Decent for standard, not as much for modern.

    • Atarka Effreet

      Can someone say mono-black Exploit?

  • Really?

    Two of these and a Ashnod’s alter.

    • Hedronal

      I don’t quite get what combo you’re thinking of.

      • Jazzyboy1

        Sacrifice one, let it go to the graveyard. You get 2 mana. Sacrifice the other, get 2 mana, pay 2 to return the first to the battlefield. You’ve got 2 mana left. Sacrifice the first, you get another 2 mana; pay 2 to return the other to the field. You’ve still got 2 mana. Rinse and repeat for infinite death and creature entering triggers.

        Then you just need anything that cares about your things dying or entering.

    • Ultramegalord

      Ashnods altar plus practically anything = a combo though. Though zulaport cutthroat and blood artist approve

      • A Fool.

        And yet only Diregraf captain will truly appreciate him/her/it/them.

  • Ryan Hoekman

    That last ability though… grey merchant for days…

    • Braken

      Just when I thought good ol’ gary couldn’t get any better

  • Chad Hill

    I am not sure whether I should get 2 or 4 of these. What do you guys think?

    • Jazzyboy1

      Depends on how much it costs. If it’s £20, buy 1 or 2. If it’s only £5, buy 4. If it’s pennies, buy a million.

  • Alex Egertsen

    I think it will be good with evolutionary leap

    • DJ Pad

      Not as good as token producers like Nissa. It costs GBBB to get one card, which, though it may be useful in grindy matchups, is not going to be super useful for most.

      • Alex Egertsen

        What if you are sacrificing it to get a creature from the graveyard and one from the deck. at the very least I think paying three mana to get another copy of this guy and something sweet s very realistic especially if you were playing a ddeck that runs a nissa or liliana.

  • wiseguy

    So close… if only it said any creature not just zombie, I’d run this all day…

  • ForeverLaxx

    This is what Mythics were supposed to be from the start. Strong cards for decks designed to work with them with low (though sometimes marginally passable) splashability. Avacyn is likely to be desirable for every white deck under the sun, much like how Baneslayer was. This zombie is really only valuable for zombies or mono-black sacrifice decks and brings enough potential power to justify the Mythic rarity.

  • Tragic

    I like this card because it’s interesting, but it’s not particularly powerful at all, which is rather disappointing…
    It’s only mythic because it has so many abilities, but how often is anyone going to be able to use them?
    This is why mono-black is not really a thing in most formats, because they design them to focus more around strange niche abilities than actual utility.
    Black is a slow enough color in modern and standard, that leaving your mana open just in the hopes you’ll bring something from the graveyard when this guy dies will slow it down even more.
    I’m not saying it’s a BAD card, but utility wise? It’s a casual or commander card at best.

    • Lorcogoth

      its not amazing but you will see it in almost every zombie archtype deck the synergy is perfect and the stat-to-cost is good but its the menace that pushes it over the edge from decent to good its agrasive early one but they don’t want to kill it so you start buffing it then they do want to kill it but they require at least two creatures.
      its a good card but only with zombie synergy decks.

      • Tragic

        Yeah, like I said, it’s a pretty niche card, so I agree with you there. I’ve just been really looking forward to returning to Innistrad because of the mono-black zombie deck I’ve worked so hard on, and was hoping for some good boosts for the tribal. I suppose it works well for the black devotion, but doesn’t quite have the competitive edge I was looking for. The menace on top is pretty nifty, but having menace on a 2/2 is like having trample on a 1/1, doesn’t really accomplish much.

    • Melissa Juice

      This could easily see constructed play. Definitely powerful.

  • Vizzerdrix

    I’m a lIttle unsure about this card in general, casual zombie deck that I know lots of people play peed their pants, personally I don’t see a whole lot to do with it competitively, maybe a black devotion slight/entirely zombie deck, swing this with 6 or so devotion bring back Geralf messenger or grey merchant, could be interesting

  • MyArmadaHasWurms

    I’m really loving the flavor of the set so far.

  • nightshade88

    Damn zombies, they broke the window from Endless Ranks of the Dead and now the floor is full of Shards of Broken Glass…

  • crypt

    also, its 008 out of 297…white and blue go first…

  • Tye

    Well, look at the lights ‘behind’ it. It’s likely an oversized card, I imagine. Maybe the numbering and ‘R’ are inconsistent for that reason.

  • Stef

    t6 – magical christmas land