• Justus Bruestle

    I don’t get the line “exile the rest” it doesn’t say “you may put it your hand” and it doesn’t give you set number that you are allowed to take. The only thing preventing you form putting each in your hand is your opponent paying 3 life for each. I’m assuming it means that any cards that your opponent pays 3 life for are exiled but its a weird way of saying it. It would be better to write it “Reveal the top three cards of your library for each card put into your hand unless an opponent pays 3 life. If he or she does exile that card instead.”

    • M Hedonist

      It does say “put that card into your hand”. Right in the sentence “For each of those cards, put that card into your hand unless any opponent pays 3 life.” That seems pretty straightforward so far – reveal three cards, put each into your hand unless an opponent pays 3 life. The question then is, what to do with the cards that were revealed and you aren’t allowed to put into your hand (because otherwise they would remain in some sort of revealed-limbo). That’s why these cards are simply referred to as “the rest”. Because the cards that you put in your hand have already been dealt with.

      It seems very straightforward to me?

      • Justus Bruestle

        I understand what the flipping card does. I’m just saying I would have worded it differently.

      • Justus Bruestle

        I know what the flipping card does. I’m just say I don’t like how it’s worded.

    • Pandancules

      Normally I don’t believe in correcting a persons grammar or spelling in an argument, but in this case you literally need to correct your grammar for your point to even be coherent.

      • Justus Bruestle

        I think you might just need to learn to read. There are no spelling errors in my post, and the only grammar errors I can see are some missing comas (and I don’t care) You can figure it out.

        • Pandancules

          entire words are missing dude

  • Fred Weasley

    “Would you like to pay 9 life or can I draw three cards?” I didn’t feel like writing out the other scenarios, but I like this card.

  • M Hedonist

    Slightly better than Browbeat? Or worse? The fact that the cards go into exile and you have no chance to ever interact with them again actually probably makes it worse.

    • galen150

      well you can interact with them again, but its fairly unlikely

    • MrAptronym

      I say worse, they get to see the cards first and make their decision on a per-card basis. That much information and the fine control your opponent gets is probably worth more than the extra life cost.

  • E.

    I like for standard and limited I hate for commander :P

    • Friedrich

      It is with this card, like it is with most cards that give your opponent the option to loose life instead of giving you something, its only half as good in commander :(
      Sad. I like the idea.

      • Hedronal

        Plus this lets multiple opponents do it, so even worse in multiplayer like commander.

    • magicalfollower

      1v1 doesn’t seem bad though.

      • E.

        True, I tend to forget 1 v 1 commander is a thing when assessing cards. ^^”

  • Eli Eyal Broide

    Such an aggressive card…

  • aw0001

    upgraded browbeat… 9 damage for 3 mana and 1 card vs 5 damage is a world of difference. is it blasphemy to wonder if this playable in modern burn?

    • Happy The Cat

      but browbeat doesn’t reveal the cards, and they can just pay 3 to deal with the one good card you reveal and let you keep the lands.

    • Random Guy

      Another downside, Browbeat is all-or-nothing, they can pay 3 life instead of 5 if desperate here.

    • Kiowa

      I play browbeat in my burn deck and I could see this replace it the only problem is they get to see the three cards you drew where browbeat is they don’t know if you whip on lands or not so that can be the downside

      • aw0001

        Fair points (also to those above). I think browbeat default is to take the 5 damage, whereas on this one on average will show 2 nonlands and 1 land. about 1.5 will be burn spells, and 0.5 will be creatures, and 1 will be a land. Showing the cards isn’t as meaningful when playing burn where your cards are redundant (i.e. you don’t care when you’re thoughtseized or inquisitioned, every card does the same thing). I think this is better than browbeat, but perhaps the drawbacks are too much.

  • galen150

    rather like this card. could be 3 mana for 9 damage, or 3 mana for 3 cards, or be somewhere inbetween. 3 mana for 2 cards and 3 damage seems like what this would usually end up being. pretty strong

    • galen150

      i do like that this is good in both vamps and pirates. also like the name and flavor text.

    • MrAptronym

      I like it too, but remember that it will be your worst 2 cards and three damage, or if your draw was going to be great, your worst card of three (land is likely) and 6 damage.

  • Jay Kilian

    Man, this with that land that copies spells. Depending on the top 6 you’d have your opponent in such a bind.

    • Landon N.

      which land copies spells?

      • Julius van Vlierberghe

        reflection pool or something like that

      • Jay Kilian

        Flipside of Primal Amulet in this set. Mirrorpool does it too, but that costs extra mana and is rotating.

  • MrAptronym

    I love punisher cards. Not sure that this is actually worth casting for anything but fun though. Unlike browbeat, your opponent gets to see each card and decide on it specifically. Unless your opponent is at 9 or less life, you won’t actually get what you need with this card very often. The granularity of the control is a huge downside.

    • Jay Kilian

      This will be good in a Torment/Curse/Control deck as you have inevitability on your side.

      • MrAptronym

        I would actually argue it is best in aggro or possibly burn. In those options, especially control, you tend to rely on a few key threats. If almost 2/3rd of your deck are threats (and 1/3rd land) then them deciding to deny you any one card isn’t that big a deal. Similarly, in burn if your opponent is taking damage to the face, or your choice of damage to a creature or their face next turn then the choices are a bit more equivalent.

        • Neehal Hussain

          100% agreed this would be very good in burn or some form of aggro

  • Matthew Beaver

    I think the biggest mistake when looking at this card is not considering the exile part. The exile is the greatest drawback of this card and it honestly the greatest limiting factor on if you should or shouldn’t invest in playing it. If this had simply said they go to the graveyard then there would be far greater uses for this but the exile is a huge limiting factor to this card.

  • sansmyhands

    I feel like this is one of those cards that I think, “Well, this is pretty much unplayable chaff” and then lose to a couple dozen times in limited.