• Typhuzuzu13

    With no limit to how much you can activate his first ability (save mana, of course), this sets up for a decent board clear. And it’s prey ability is at instant speed it seems.

    • wadledo

      While I don’t know much Portuguese, “Ative” and “Turno” seem to indicate that it’s only on your turn, so not really at instant speed. Unless you were saying instant speed on your turn, which is technically correct, in which case, I appologize.

      • Typhuzuzu13

        ahk. See it now. changes things just a tad.

  • Larz Eric Paulsen

    Would be an amazing commander but not sure if you can “reveal” from the command zone. So probably wont work. Thoughts?

    • David Fitzsimmons

      It outright says ‘from your hand’. So no it won’t work anywhere at all that is not your hand. This card is not good at all for commander as a commander

    • MrAptronym

      Only works from your hand, makes for a terrible commander.

      • Tolle

        Still running this in the 99 of my mono black heavy ramp deck. I can put 15 counters out there and still have enough to cast it.

        • MrAptronym

          Oh yeah, it is a solid creature in the 99, but just a bad commander.

  • Kaiser

    i love this card so much is like “hey look my assasin dinosaur right here!”

  • Happy The Cat

    This is a very Timmy card, and will hold up in limited as long as there isn’t much discard. but unless there are other cards that can put prey counters on creatures as well this won’t see much play.
    Does work exceedingly well with Dismiss into Dream.

    • Chuck

      Or Cowardice… Willbreaker… Horobi, Death’s Wail

    • galen150

      its a 6/6 creature for 6 that wipes only your opponent’s side of the field. that thing is really strong and will see a lot of play

      • MrAptronym

        Lets be clear, it isn’t quite a 6/6 that wipes your opponent’s side. You have to invest mana ahead of time to destroy their field.

        • galen150

          yea, but its only 1 mana per creature. just dump your extra mana each turn into prey counters and then when you play this you basically just win after it hits field

      • Happy The Cat

        well, it just wipes out creatures you’ve paid to destroy, not their whole board, so it’s weaker than just a Plague Wind or In Garruk’s Wake. and while you can invest in prey counters early and at instant speed at some point you’re just paying too much mana for an effect that takes so long considering Wraths and the like could get the job done for 4~6 mana instead of 7~10.

        • galen150

          it also still gives you a giant creature. one sided board wipe and a huge creature that cant be walled.

          • Happy The Cat

            Or I could just run Dread Cacodemon, since it’ll be bigger, hit more creatures for less(assuming I’m not wasting my black wraths on less than 3 creatures), isn’t laughed at by Shroud or Hexproof, doesn’t require revealing it to use, doesn’t require setting up again if I bounce/reload it, and will have a creature type that actually matters more often for Black. The downside of tapping my creatures is hardly anything compared to the setup Tetzimoc needs. The only reason you will ever pick this over any of Black’s one sided nukes is if Dinos get some amazing 4~5 color legendary that makes just having dinosaur on the card better than actual value.

  • Murilo Mazza

    Needed something to stop those “hexproof” hydras and hold hazoret

    • jochen

      stops neither

      • Murilo Mazza

        so you don’t know how to play magic. Cards are released to change things

        • galen150

          he’s right, this wont fix hexproof hydra. it still targets so you can still make hexprooff in responce, and an energy deck can probably activate it several times a turn to make you waste mana. also this was very likely designed before hydra was a problem.

          • Murilo Mazza

            galen150: You can use the Tetzimoc’s ability at instant speed. If I use the ability 3 times (using only 3 black manas, one by one), my oponent would have to spend 9 energy to make its hexproof valid. If I spend one more black mana and my opponent can’t spend energy anymore, hydra gets the prey counter. That’s the point. Do you think spending 15 energy worths spending only 5 manas? You are spending energy a couple turns, to know your hydra will die at the end. An experienced player won’t spend energy like this, it’s better to let hydra go most of the times.

          • wadledo

            So spending 9 mana to remove one hydra is good to you?

          • Murilo Mazza

            You mean if my opponent had 27 energy? lol

          • Tolle

            No, you still need to spend 6 mana to cast the creature. So 3 mana to use the ability and 6 to cast him

          • Murilo Mazza

            The thing is that you can add counters priorly when you have open lands. Yes it would be good, of course. To remove one hydra, all opponent’s energy and have a 6/6 Deathtouch, not bad.

          • Kaiser

            your oponnent need to choose between waster energy or let the hydra get killed, you dont need to play the dino the same turn that you put the counters and obviusly you can junk block the hydra for days.

          • Tolle

            Which wastes cards and reduces the utility of this card. Also, I acknowledge its usefulness. I was merely explaining the confusion that was there.

          • Rovkir Hexus

            Not that they would need to activate it more than once per turn, unless they needed the pump.

            Edit: oh wait I forgot about the stack for a minute there.

        • Mini Zem

          It’s just so much better to spend three mana and be rid of all of them before they can even hit the field though.

          • Murilo Mazza

            And it’s not just about destroying, you have a 6/6 deathtouch. It’s a “reasonable card”, but it really could turn the metagame more stable against cards like hydra and hazoret

  • Umbacano

    Ancião is Elder, not Avatar. This pretty much means that we will have a full cycle of legendary elder dinosaurs. :-)

  • Chuck

    A small translation error: It’s not an Avatar. It’s a Scion.

    • Charlie Shadeslayer

      Elder Dinosaur, Dinosaurio Anciano. No Vástago

      • Chuck

        Yes, I meant Ancient / Elder
        My English is getting rusty :(

  • galen150

    ok, a 6/6 death touch for 6, and a one sided board wipe. that card is mental. it is 6 mana win the game. even if they have a removal card they still get wiped

  • Kaiser

    Avatar? i mean sounds more like Elder to me

    • Ceinan Boileau

      “Anciâo” can be translated as “Ancient”. I think it is an Elder Dinosuar, like Ghalta. Ghalta, Primal Hunger and Tetzimoc, Primal Death.

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    Guys, it’s Anguiris from Godzilla!

  • Brenno

    The only issue I have with this dinosaur, is that based on the artwork this thing should be a herbivore

    • galen150

      that just means it enjoys killing things just to kill them.

      • Communist_Bear

        why are the counters called “prey” then ? Simple, the artwork doesn’t fit the card… For a black “elder dinosaur” they could’ve at least chose a “swampish” dinosaur, like the Spinosaurus since it’s a predator. I would’ve been okay with something close but not quite a dinosaur, like any Rauisuchian or a dimetrodon since Mtg considers “pterosaurs” to be “dinosaurs” anyway… But some “ankylosorish” dinosaur to be a black predator ? No way !

        • Mini Zem

          Or perhaps it’s a fantasy world where dinosaurs evolved differently than how they did in reality, and really shouldn’t be compared on that level of detail and to do so misses the entire point of it all.

    • Rovkir Hexus

      I dunno, those teeth look pretty pointy.

    • Dr. Burn Crow

      It’s clearly a Kaiju

  • Chaospyke

    So i’ve seen no comments on the dinosaur that breaks out of its color shard.
    Are the colors shifting for rivals?
    Jund dinos/Izzet Merfolk/Boros Vamps/Jeskai Pirates?

    • M Hedonist

      It will be a cycle of five legendary elder dinosaurs, one for each color. I will eat my hat if I’m wrong.

    • Justus Bruestle

      It’s looking like there’s going to be one crazy elder dino per color. They are basically the Gearhulks of this set. I’m exited for the blue one because blue fits with Dino’s the least so it will be interesting to see how they make it fit.

  • Ceinan Boileau

    If we’re getting a full cycle of Elder Dinos, and it looks like we are, where did they come from, what’s their purpose, what’s their backstory, and how are they connected to the Immortal Sun? Any ideas?

  • Ronald Tobias Hughes

    Should’ve been Naya colors.

    • Communist_Bear

      Ixalan is still filled with surprises

  • Edward

    This card is so cool. The fact that it puts counters on the creatures means that if this gets countered you can still bring it back later and destroy the creatures. It also makes it so if 2 or more people have one of these in hand it doesn’t matter who put the counters on a creature. All of them still die. This is for sure going to be a staple in Mono-Black EDH decks

    • Lorcogoth

      unfortunate it won’t be a good commander cause it needs to be revealed from hand.

      • Edward

        I am sure people will find a way to play it just like Phage.

      • Dave

        Command Beacon

    • Evan Grantham-Brown

      I’m not seeing it. Creatures in EDH seldom survive more than a few turns anyway; if you put a counter on something, and it dies the next turn, you just wasted your mana, while tipping off all your opponents that you have this guy in hand. And most of the time, when you play a wrath or removal in EDH, it’s to deal with an urgent threat that just recently came down.

      So most of the time you’ll be placing the counters and casting on the same turn. 7 mana to destroy one creature, or 8 to destroy two, is a lousy deal. When you get to 9 mana, you’re competing with Plague Wind and In Garruk’s Wake. Tetzimoc does give you a 6/6 body, but a 6/6 is little more than a chump blocker in EDH. It’s no good to fetch with Birthing Pod or Tooth and Nail, since you have to have it in hand to place prey counters. You can’t place the prey counters on another player’s end step. You can’t get rid of hexproof or indestructible creatures.

      Tetzimoc might be nuts in normal, two-player, 20-life Magic (though I’m not familiar enough with the Modern, Standard, or Limited metagames to say for sure). But it’s never going to be an EDH staple.

  • Oscar

    Sadly, this can’t be played in Gishath, but at least it kind of confirms a cycle of legendary elder dinosaurs. I can’t wait to see the white and the red one!

    • Cory Lee C

      You mean the ones that were in base Ixalan?

      • Cory Lee C

        unless the translation is off and it actually is an elder

        • Hyorin

          Seems like it’s most likely Elder Dinosaur, I threw Ancião through Google Translate and it resulted in things like ‘old man’ and ‘elder’. Also ancião sounds a lot like the English word ancient so elder would be a logical translation.

        • Oscar

          I assumed this is an Elder Dinosaur when I made my statement. The Dinosaur Avatars from the base set are only the three aspects of the sun and not an actual cycle.

  • MotokoBibliophobe

    Oh thank god, new Reason // Believe tech.

  • Kelvin

    Seems decent with Goryo’s Vengeance. {1}{B} one-sided board wipe and deal 6 damage, ultimately spending 1 card total.

    • M Hedonist

      How do you get prey counters on all enemy creatures when this is in your graveyard? And you still have to pay that mana to put prey counters everywhere, don’t you? I’m not sure I’m following on this one…

      • Kelvin

        I’m assuming you put them before incidentally discarding Tetzimoc with LotV, Collective Brutality, or Faithless Looting? My point was it’s pretty trivial.

        • M Hedonist

          You’re spending a whole lot more than just {1}{B} then.

    • Lantern

      I mean, if you’re playing Vengeance, that’s not really anything too fantastic… you can get stuff like Emmy and Griseldaddy off Vengeance

    • Furyfied3000

      To Goryo’s Vengeance him just to kill some creatures in the field is not very efficient.

  • Darkray Accel

    Im 99% sure ancião means elder not avatar, how cant hey mess that up…

    Getting hyped for the red dinossaur, dont disappoint me pls.

    • Gord

      *can they mess that up
      lol

  • Deadly Berry

    Sadly, it is awkward as a commander, since it can’t put prey counters from your command zone.

    • Andrew Rapp

      Command Beacon says sup :)

      • Deadly Berry

        hehehe

  • Bob

    Such a good threat card for standard, maybe mono black has the tech now to tempo the game. Just the threat of putting prey counters on everything opponent has knowing you have a board wipe in hand plus the hand disruption and spot removal is really strong.
    Maybe the rakdos walker will tie red in for some rakdos control kill/burn shenanigans

  • Hedronal

    Now that I’ve seen others of this cycle, I want to know what the flavor text of this in the cycle would have been.