Thalia, Heretic Cathar - Eldritch Moon Spoiler

Thalia, Heretical Cathar

  • Color: White
  • Type: Legendary Creature - Human, Soldier
  • Rarity: Rare
  • Set:

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First strike

Creatures and nonbasic lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped.

  • M.T.G

    This creature seems very viable in D&T and half decent for pillowfort. Overall a 8/10.

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    Loxodon Gatekeeper, but with less coverage and first strike? I’ll allow it.

    • Guest

      Also swapped P/T and one less coloured (and overall) mana. Pretty solid overall.
      Oh and legendary, which can matter.

      • Jazzyboy1

        Yeah, her being legendary is the one thing that makes me reluctant to add her to my Soldier deck. I would want to use her as a 4-of and change the focus of the deck to a lockdown strategy; but the deck has very little card draw or filtering of any kind, so running a legendary as a 4-of would be risky.

        • Sunawa

          Say hello to Modern. People run Geist of St. Traft as a 4 of in Modern all the time. She makes fetches almost useless, blocks Kiki-Chord combo, slows token decks, and makes Ghost Quarter better. If she isn’t still at 15 a pop rotating out of standard, something is grossly wrong.

          • Jazzyboy1

            Geist of St. Traft is Blue. Blue has mucho card draw. My Soldier deck is mono-white. White has almost no good card draw. Therefore, Geist players don’t mind having a bad draw(i.e. drawing a 2nd Geist). I do mind having a bad draw(i.e. drawing a 2nd Thalia).

            Of course, this issue is only there because I’m playing mono-white. I could just splash blue. But I don’t want to, so the issue still stands :P

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        It’s not bad, for sure, but if the price on this is more than $3 once it rotates out of standard, sometimes is grossly wrong.

  • Liam Maiher

    So as a 1 or Maby 2 of in abzan company seems ridiculous.

  • Kevan Kramer

    Damnit Wizards. Humans didn’t need another good card to make it powerful. Btw this is the buy-a-box art for this card.

  • Ultramegalord

    Costs one too much for a hate bear….. but damn

  • Jazzyboy1

    Why couldn’t Emrakul turn her into a Kithkin?! :(

    Jk, though I do wish all Soldiers were Kithkin because then I could use them as sacrifices for Thoughtweft Trio. Still though, this is a great card for my Soldier deck, especially in combination with Court Street Denizen.(can use them for a lockdown strategy)

  • MTG fan

    Can anyone translate the flavor text? Is that what they are called?

  • Vizzerdrix

    Didn’t ThalIa die protecting the hellvault? That being said shouldn’t she be a spirit?

    • Jazzyboy1

      No, she opened the Helvault because she wanted Avacyn back and because Liliana threatened the lives of her soldiers. There was no fight.

  • MrAptronym

    Good stats, first strike and a fairly disruptive ability for 3CMC? New Thalia seems like a pretty versatile creature. I am a fan.

  • Ulamog

    Rough translation of her flavor text:

    “The Lunarch Council does not guarantee salvation. You have to earn it; by the sword, if it is necessary.”

  • Gabriel

    yes yes… monow humans really needed another powerhouse

  • Winter Trabex

    This is good enough to be a mythic. I can’t tell you how good this is going to be in Modern with all those shock lands.

    • Blahblahblahbla

      Not only that, but fetches, my man…. It makes it so if your opponent only has fetches in hand, they play it tapped, wait a turn, then sac it to find a shock, then wait another turn before they can tap it. Kindof forces them to fetch for basics.

      • Winter Trabex

        There are also Urza’s lands. If you ramp and drop it on turn 2, you’re gonna be in good shape. It’s also not bad for attacking/blocking. In standard, I’m not sure how much it’s gonna matter.

    • Ben Driver

      The main problem with modern is everyone that runs white and/or red uses lightning bolts or Path to Exile…

      • Winter Trabex

        I’d rather have someone remove a card that doesn’t enable a combo because they don’t want to keep being hosed.

  • Melissa Juice

    Crazy good. Elegant design.

  • Blahblahblahbla

    She is here and she is glorious!!! Modern hatebears rejoices!!!

  • The Hastener

    Yeesh that art is terrible. She looks like a dude in a wig doing “duckface”.

    • Michael Kelsch

      anyone else see donald trump in a wig lol

  • Sheepy150

    Is it just me, or does the rarity symbol look like it’s Mythic? I know there’s glare on it, but it looks like it’s got an awful lot of red in it to be just Rare.

  • Robert FakeLastName

    is she supposed to have devoid? I mean the border is colorless but she is not…

    • Zombie

      It probably just looks like that because it’s a photo of a foil card.

      • Robert FakeLastName

        upon careful inspection i think there is more going on here.

        • Nolly

          …no, its definitely a foil white card. Its a buy a box promo. It doesn’t have any devoid abilities (Devoid was explicitly stated by Mark Rosewater to not be in this set). This is just a photo of a foiled white card.

          • Robert FakeLastName

            I know by this point that the card itself isn’t devoid or anything but the “see through” border kinda thing is not what I would expect from truly colored cards.

          • Arc of the Conclave

            i’m fairly sure that it looks pale because it is in plastic wrap.

          • Evan Dischinger

            I think its just the promo version.

    • Mr.Mayhem631

      She has a white border.

      • Robert FakeLastName

        it does seem that there is detailing where there would normally be straight white.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          …Where? There’s one part that looks sorta like that, until you realize she’s holding a sword and not a spear.
          It’s unquestionably just the foiling and the wrapper.

          • Robert FakeLastName

            i thought it was part of her elbow and hair. i never thought she had a spear..

    • Gareth Martin

      If she is supposed to have devoid she would have devoid.

  • Samuel

    favorite spoiler sofar

  • xxxx

    If this is the buy a box promo, will she have differnt art as a normal card ????

    • Yes.

      • Evan Dischinger

        And thank god

  • Zombie

    Great card, but her face looks like Michael Jackson on the BAB Promo variant.

    As for the card itself, a 3/2 First Strike for 2W is okay, but giving her Imposing Sovereign’s ability on crack? I’m completely sold.

    She’s going to be a massive nightmare of a Commander/General in EDH. It’s quite possible she might even see some minor Modern play in Hatebears, Melira Chord, or maybe Abzan Company.

    • xxxx

      I guess she could be a better mono white stax general than hokori because her ability doesn’t affect the thalia player. This will be my next edh deck. I’ve waited for an interesting mono w legend for quite some time so I’m happy though I still hope that she has a different artwork as a normal card.

    • Evan Dischinger

      I’m actually a massive fan of her in legacy, she hates on sneak and show, elves, goblins, and fetches.

      • Zombie

        The problem with her in legacy is her CMC 3.

        She’s probably going to end up like Brimaz in Legacy of anything. A CMC 3 great white beater/utility creature that’s going to see little to no play after a short while because forcing CMC 3 kills your mana efficiency.

        • Evan Dischinger

          I mean flickerwisp and wingmare are 4 ofs

  • William Powell

    Oh snap We got a slightly better Blind Obedience on a stick

  • Son Goku

    Oh, I love this. I already really like the original Thalia, but in a combined Human/Angel deck, either version is great for slowing your opponent down. I look forward to seeing the other art for it, though.

  • xxxx

    David Bowie <(o.O<)

  • David

    The face… Ugh. Thalia is supposed to be really young (like 19 in original Innastrad, so maybe a few years older by now? I don’t know the actual time difference between the sets, but she can’t be THAT much older… ). This person looks 50.

    • Hedronal

      Time difference: ~1 year.

      • Minizem

        Actually, she looks like shes 20 but with graphics from the early 2000’s.

        • Hedronal

          Which makes sense, given the canonical time frame.

    • Brogan Justicar Gibbons

      Could be light glare on the foil making it look like that. Besides that who say’s that she’s supposed to be really hot.

  • t1 noble heirach, t2 this, t3 hold for counter magic, sounds like a fun midrange for modern.

    • Arcus Diabolus

      Doesn’t sound like midrange to me. Seems more like full on control. To me midrange is is more like aggroing into a large fatty then shooting or countering whatever could pose a threat to it or yourself.

  • Edward

    The other tribes better get stuff this good or standard is going to be dominated by humans once again as nothing else will be alle to stand up against this unless it is control

  • chad

    Bant Coco is now broken folks! Or mono white humans can now compete fully with said Coco!

    • Now? Bant CoCo hasn’t been that good since the first few weeks of SOI standard, all while Bant and mono white humans have been winning.

    • Happy The Cat

      it’s more so bant humans now has another reason to just leave Coco in the deck.

  • Deadly Berry

    Notice her card is almost colorless, could she have an alternate form like that writhing township card? Maybe it’s just the brightness. Anyway the card has nice effects (and great art), it’ll be a nice Tiny leader.

    • It’s just because the card is foil.

  • kmk888

    That is so absurdly good against fetches… And it hates out Kiki/Splinter Twin combos. Curving the original Thalia into this is going to end a lot of games in modern. Hatebears just got better and legacy Death and Taxes may end up paying it too (although 3 cmc is a lot)

    • Ugh

      Splinter Twin is banned, where have you been?

      • kmk888

        I am well aware. But Kiki Chord is still a competitive deck and Splinter Twin may be unbanned at some point or achieve success in other formats.

    • Nharzhool

      Meh…dies to Doom Blade.

  • Epiphany

    Why is white getting even more strong cards?

    • Velvet Wurm

      Because we need a new commander staple

  • It’s stating “non basic lands” which leads to me that we’re getting untapped dual lands. I’m curious what route they’ll go though with them.

    • Joshua Lane

      There are two sets of untapped allied color duals in standard at the moment, so I don’t think they’re going to introduce anything new. Maybe they’ll complete the cycle of peek lands.

  • De’Elgathor

    She shuts down hasty melds, guys!

  • MagicSpoiler

    Promo Version

  • Arcus Diabolus

    This art is much better than the promo version.

    • DJ PAd

      Agreed, much better.

  • chad

    Is it just me or does Thalia look like Emma Watson?? Lol

    • Chaospyke

      From teh last set there was a card called Into the Fold, and I thought the character there looked like Jennifer Aniston

    • Nharzhool

      Looks more like Amber Heard with dark lipstick on, to me. :)

  • Happy The Cat

    wait a second. ashen white hair. monster slayer. one sword. Thalia has turned into Ciri from The Witcher. she even looks like her in witcher 3!

  • Timothy Hurst

    Heretic Cathar, where’s my editor?