• Arcus Diabolus

    So it fills the same role as the 6 cost angel from the last set, but cheaper.

    • Gildan Bladeborn

      The angel only flickered creatures, this thing works on any permanent. So sure, it COULD fill the same role… or it can be one half of a 2-card infinite combo that wins on turn 4, while doing yeoman work alongside so very many other cards. I’m kind of flabbergasted this was spoiled via the “last day info dump” and not earlier in the week.

      • Agario Flame

        I don’t think wizards was expecting all of the combo potential

        • Random Guy

          I do. Look at Crackdown Construct, the first thing that pops into your head when you see that card is “Wait any ability? Even the free ones?”. That card was specifically designed for an infinite combo, this probably was too.

      • Random Guy

        Turn 4 is not reasonable. Turn 4 requires Saheeli to be on the board for a full turn 3 without getting countered/damaged/disrupted in any way. Turn 6 is reasonable, since you can cast the Guardian targeting a land refunding the mana to follow up with Saheeli.

  • Matthew J. Willoughby

    Goes infinite with Saheeli? Neat, lol.

  • Pandancules

    Can we ban this now?

  • Zombie

    This… uh…

    This might be a bit broken. There aren’t enough clauses on this to stop it from infinitely chaining with a mountain of cards.

    If this flies under the radar, Wizards is gonna be in for a BIG stink.

  • JamesIsLames

    Authority of the Consuls is going to probably be a must have sideboard, if not main deck, card for this plus Saheeli Rai.

    • mehngo

      Eh, doesn’t really do much against it. You just gain life for each power they gain, which can easily be taken away in a couple turns. It helps but isn’t the answer you’re looking for going against that kind of combo.

      • Aleczander117

        The tokens do enter tapped with authority and they exile at end of turn.

        • mehngo

          Oh you’re right. People were comparing it so much to Splinter Twin that I forgot about the exile clause. I knew about the entering tapped clause, but since I thought they stuck around I thought it wouldn’t matter cause you could just swing next couple turns. Obviously I was wrong.

          • mehngo

            Also not sure why I thought Splinter Twin kept the copies in the first place. RIP me.

        • Random Guy

          A nice White sideboard if this becomes competitive, thanks for pointing it out. But Shock, counter spells, and Transgress also do fine. Also, Thalia, Heretic Cathar maybe?

  • mehngo

    I hope to be the one who pulls this and sundering titan masterpiece at prerelease/draft xd (or any of the gearhulks)

  • Pangbot

    So how long until this card gets banned in Standard then?

    Seriously WotC, what have you been smoking?

    • Random Guy

      It seems like they knew this would happen. Look at Crackdown Construct, the first thing that pops into your head when you see that card is “Wait any ability? Even the free ones?”. That card was specifically designed for an infinite combo, this probably was too. This card isn’t super OP imo, you only have a 33% chance of drawing both it and Saheeli in an average game, yet it takes up 1/4 spells in your deck. If you cast it and it’s not disrupted (via shock, transgress, counterspell, authority of the consuls) then it is a turn 6 instant win, which is good but not unbeatable. The upside of the combo is that the other 28 spells can be anything that keeps you alive. Overall, I think a deck with this combo will be somewhat competitive but not tier 1.