• Aurore

    Jeezus.

  • Chaospyke

    My word he is nasty. I love it.

    Shame he was so weak storywise.

    • Kaiser

      weak? XD he fight agains 5 planeswalkers, the most powerful mages of the multiverse and not just walkers but the Oath that take down 2 Eldrazi titans and match with the strongest titan.

      • Chaospyke

        With respect, if you can’t last a single story, you’re weak.
        And Yea i know it was 1v5, to which i respond git gud.

    • Hedronal

      On the contrary, he was able to defeat Liliana unlike her previous two masters, even when she had the Chain Veil. The Gatewatch 5 could have beaten him maybe without Gideon, but that’s about it.

  • Kaiser

    Tutor free of mana cost, trample and flying. Stronger enought to stop Brand himselft. I want your power.

    • MTG fan

      You still need another creature to sacrifice to tutor with him, but other wise this is an excellent card.

      • Kaiser

        If he not needs that would be even more broken than griselbrand XD

  • Sascha Nax

    Grieselbrand 2.0

  • Akisama Inu

    Might just work well in my kaalia deck

    • Gord

      My Karador deck just shrieked like a girl at a beatles concert.

      • Tolle

        Liking for the Beatles reference.

  • Writerofthings

    Demonic Tutor for one mana is broken. Ok, let’s make it 8 mana then. Cool, cool, but let’s also slap it on an 8/8 flying demon with trample. Thank you.

    • Johan K

      And you also would not lose your draw step.

  • Happy The Cat

    Big. Black. and Beautiful.
    just wish you were more colors so there would be more of you to love.

    • MOSES

      THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!

  • Lord Reptile

    Fits nicely any commander deck based on sacrifice.

  • mehngo

    As an EDH player, this is not ok.

  • Aurore

    Griselbrand eat your heart out. Any decent token maker with this guy (Ophiomancer, Endrek) and all of a sudden we’ve got another demon on the Commander banlist. 7 life to draw 7 is terrifying. 14 life to tutor 7 is unbelievable.

    • Hedronal

      Also costs 7 creatures though.

  • Jacob Hennessy

    Liliana: Guys can we go to Amonkhet to beat up Razaketh please?

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    I figured he’d be a 5/5 or something with a pay life card advantage ability.
    This is ABSURD. It’s evil. I’m in love.

  • jochen

    Meren just got a new bff. Who will likely get banned soon.

  • BlackManaAddict

    As much as I love the absurdity of this card and I so want to play it in EDH. I wouldn’t be surprised if this card got a swift banning.

  • Ryū

    Not what I expected. Kind of awesome.

  • Tavis Carrillo

    EDH ban for sure

    • Blahblahblahbla

      I’m not sold that this is eligible for ban. Griselbrand can draw you 14 cards instantly by just paying life. This card you have to sacrifice a creature to get 1 card. Combo decks have a very difficult time assembling spare creatures to sacrifice. I mean, Tooth and Nail, Survival of the Fittest, MIkaeus the Unhallowed, etc. aren’t banned.

      • Tolle

        Zero mana tutor at instant speed. Gristlebrand gets you 7 random cards. That is ham fisted compared to this precision

        • Blahblahblahbla

          What if Demonic Tutor costed 8 mana, 2 life and sacrificing a creature? Griselbrand is busted because he draws you 35 cards in EDH right away and refills your draw engine as turns pass. This card has potential, but it’s no Griselbrand. The inevitability of this card is amazing, but the instant impact is not the same.

          • Tolle

            This card doesn’t need to draw you 35 cards. It just grabs your combo pieces and wins. And bringing up the mana is kind of poimtless when we are comparing to gristlebrand. This guy, like gristlebrand, is going to be cheated out more often than not.

          • Raymond Horley

            t1 entomb t2 shadowborn apostle + reanimate (go find something neat and it only cost you 3 cards 10 life and 3 mana value)

      • Tavis Carrillo

        He’ll get broken. Watch.

    • Sascha Nax

      nope. unlike grieselbrand he doesnt do anything by himself but he is very powerful and a “fair” version of grieselbrand.

      • Tavis Carrillo

        He’ll get broken. Watch,

  • Lantern

    Instant speed tutor. WHY WIZARDS WHY! I LIKE MY MONEY!

    • Kaiser

      They will take EVEN your blood

      • Happy The Cat

        pretty sure they stopped taking blood after d&d 4th edition, wanna talk about crazy and rather poor nerds? minis dont come cheap.

        • Kaiser

          i dont expect this comment, you got me.

  • BEARPUNCH

    Black Johnny combo deck, damn this card is powerful, if grislebrand can see edh play this guy will for sure.

    • Nathan Lennon

      he can’t doe he is banned?

      • Hedronal

        Because he would see so much play if he wasn’t.

  • Dave

    The flavor text is a bit lacking after the strong presence in the story but the card itself is pretty awesome!

    • Gord

      Worst flavor text to card power ratio ever IMO. It’s just so bland and too the point it might as well read – “This represents a character in Lilliana’s backstory”.

      • Dave

        Haha, yeah! Real shame that. Especially since we knew about him being on Amonkhet since the very beginning. Some quote would’ve been nice but maybe they didn’t want to take the spotlight away from Nicol Bolas as big bad.

  • Jacob Kodicovic

    Only one left: Belzenlok.

    • Nate Winchester

      Then I hope we get a BvB duel decks set with Liliana in one deck, and all 4 of the legendary demons in the other.

      • Hedronal

        We did basically get that in her campaign in Magic Duels.

        • Nharzhool

          Yeah, but it’s not as cool…I’d like some kind of crazy EDH deck where Lily is a very powerful Planeswalker commander that starts with The Chain Veil out, and the other deck can have all four Demons as the commanders. I know that’d break some stuff in the format, but it would still be interesting to me.

          • Hedronal

            At that point it seems more like a hybrid of that commander deck and the Duels campaign would be appropriate – kill one demon, then the next one becomes the commander.

  • Jude

    Honestly dont know if i want this or not. Ita great but the only place itll go is reanimator eternal right with griz. Im not 100% certain this will be banned in edh, i kinda hope not cause though its a powerful ability he doesnt inherently self sustain. Big G can just say on the board and keep self sustaining his own draw ability with no help. Granted this guys trigger is simple free and easy to accomodate, he doesnt replenish life without assisstance. Maybe he wont be banned in commander just based on that. Gonna hope, cause as good as he is im just not sold that hes quite so powerful as to be bannef

    • Kaiser

      The diference between him and Griselbrand is the lifelink. Lifelink is relevant just is he survives one turn. Griselbrand was banned not just cause he is pretty much free draw but cause you can draw 7 cards at instant. This is the same. I never hopes this survives, just tutor 2 or 3 cards is very broken at instant speed.

      • DJ Pad

        There is a ton of difference between the two. Griselbrand often assures victory on his own, this does not. Griselbrand was banned because of the starting life total in EDH allowed you to potentially draw 35 cards the turn you cast him, nothing else.

        If this guy made 2 creature tokens or something when he comes into play, then we can talk about a comparison. I mean for 8 mana, there are already better tutors out there if that’s what you’re looking for.

        • Shagoth

          And drawing 35 cards win on the spot because you amass combos and combo protectors at the same time… like this card can. This can tutor a ton of cards, and X tutor ends up tutoring for two with this cmc.

          • DJ Pad

            Right, but Griselbrand did it on it’s own, not with the help of pre-existing board presence.

  • Jordan

    Actually surprised he got a card. Wasn’t he the guardian to Bolas’s gates of the afterlife?

    Also, jesus, how powerful is that last one?

    • Tolle

      Yes but he was also one of Liliana’s demons.

      • Jordan

        I understand that, and that’s also how Bolas knows about Lili’s powers, but he wasn’t on this plane. He was guarding the Gates, so wasn’t on this plane.

        • Jalais

          Wait what? The gate’s on Amokhet, it was even a card. A shitty card, but it’s there.

          • Jordan

            The gate is yes, but isn’t the other side of it another plane? Essentially like the gates of heaven? The card kind of depicts that. Not that it matters, I just realized they’ve actually put out some stories that were in another location than the ones I read, and the demon came back through the gate.

          • Mov

            No. Both sides are on this plane. Just like how the Underworld that Elspeth is in is still in Theros.

            The last storyline was where Tezz went through a huge effort of taking over Kaladesh just to get his hands on a planar gate. If Bolas already had one they wouldn’t have bothered…

        • Kaiser

          Not exactly. Bolas know about lilianas powers cause he was the one who told her how to get that powers.

        • Tolle

          I don’t get why you are saying he wasn’t on this plane… the gate to the afterlife in not only on the plane. It is inside the city.

        • Hedronal

          Where exactly did you think that gate went to that wasn’t on the plane?

          • Jordan

            We are playing a game where portals and gates lead to other areas. We just saw one on Kaladesh. I assumed this was the gate to the afterlife. It’s certainly not just a wall with doors that open and you can walk to the other side. otherwise anyone could have flown over it and swaw there was nothing on the other side…

          • Hedronal

            The thing being, the people of that city-state don’t leave it ever. Even if they did, it could just be in an enclosed or hard-to-wander-into space, maybe patrolled by (or just full of) whatever undead.

            The afterlife part is confirmed to be one of Bolas’s many grand lies. Literally the whole prophecy/afterlife thing was lied about aside from when it would happen.

            Also, A: the gate could just lead inside an extradimensional space attached to this plane, and B: the one we just saw on Kaladesh was a whole new invention, not old enough for this.

    • Stef

      I think Liliana’s demons always get a card. At least we usually have one large demon in each set. Even though they suck sometimes.

  • Bostorket

    Kaalia: RAZACHU, I CHOOSE YOU!

  • Michael Rohan

    Oh, just what mono-black EDH players needed: a literal demonic tutor commander.

  • Shagoth

    I hope this abomination gets banned in commander.
    If it wasn’t for the sacrifice a creature clause, this would be better than griselbrand. A lot of the reason people pay so much life with griselbrand is to find a couple of cards, this can do that for sometimes less and sometimes more.

  • Grant Jacobson

    just checking but they essentially put birthing pod on a stick and made it a black commander? that isn’t broken at all #sarcasm

    • Jordan

      BP doesn’t cost 8 mana, a creature, and 2 life.

      • Grant Jacobson

        phyrexian mana costs 2 life (also “on a stick” is the mtg communities way of denoting that the effect is attached to a creature with high power and toughness creatures getting the moniker “beatstick”)
        edit: also you have to sack a creature to activate BP’s effect as well

    • Jalais

      This isn’t like pod at all, for one it puts them in hand. And this lets you tutor anything.

      • Grant Jacobson

        which is close enough to serve essentially the same purpose during deck building in commander (the main purpose of the comparison is to determine the power level of a card that nobody here has play tested by comparing it to something roughly equivalent in power level and impact)

  • Robert FakeLastName

    may as well have printed jonny combo player in black border…

    • codetaku

      To be fair, at 8 mana you’re not exactly going to see a storm deck literally ever play this card.

  • Ecoabismo

    Im preety sure the last demon of Lilana wil be a 9/9

    • Shagoth

      Kuro, Pit Lord would fit the bill of paying life and being a 9/9, though Wizards wouldn’t do a clever story callback, they’ve been gift wrapped several opportunities in the past.

      • Mov

        Does he speak with a Russian accent and still wear clothes from the 80s?

        • Shagoth

          Naw, he’s a weeb.

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        The fourth demon is called Belzenok. It’s already been established.

        • Nanya

          Who were the other two again?

          • Dr. Burn Crow

            Kothophed and Grisselbrand.

          • Nanya

            hmm, both of them have draw mechanics, so the last one should have a search mechanic as well, right?

          • Dr. Burn Crow

            I have no idea. It makes sense to me, but supposedly, Belzenok is a big dummy brute, so I’m not sure how that fits.

          • John Scott

            possibly “whenever he deals combat damage draw” or something along those lines

        • Shagoth

          I know, I was just saying that WOTC has a lot of missed opportunities.
          Like a previously established demon being the fourth from another plane.

    • John Scott

      just realized that her demons go up in number for their power and toughness, and would make sense as i believe bezenok was the strongest physically but not so smart (don’t remember where i read that)

    • Dave

      Or it’s a 5/5… ;)

  • YEEEEEEEEESSSS. I was waiting for this and I haven’t been disappointed. Diabolic Tutor is one of my favorite cards, and now I get it on a demon? =D

    • codetaku

      … how did Diabolic Tutor ever become one of your favorite cards? It’s virtually unplayable outside of commander and there are a million better tutors in MtG. Are you sure you didn’t mean Demonic Tutor?

      This, on the other hand, has a very strong effect (though at 8 mana and with aetherworks marvel banned, it probably won’t see play in Standard).

      • Raymond Horley

        maybe with scarab god and graveyard shenanigans.

      • Because I’m unaware of those other tutors and because Demonic Tutor, for only two mana, seems actually unfairly good for the cost and I’d probably avoid playing it purely out of respect.

        Also because that freaking card art is… breathtaking. Too much flavor NOT to love. That face is like, exactly how I feel 99% of the time I’m playing black. That face is why I LOVE black. Why would I not run a card that literally has my current emotion printed on it in my black deck? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b8ff1aa2eec53acf141e05745be123951a4efa4e8c0a5bda8148bdb690ae99a7.jpg

        And whether or not the card is “unplayable” in the venues you play in means nothing to me; while in the future I may play Magic more competitively right now I only play with my friends and being able to pull out central trump cards like my Ascendant Evincar to insta-kill 1/1s and buff up my board just feels cool. Actually the fact that I managed to pull cards like Evincar or Prodigal Pyromancer out of my very first packs of Magic is probably another huge part of why I love Diabolic Tutor; itching to get those two specific cards out defines much of my early play of this game.

  • LetsGetReal

    8 Mana 8/8 ahhh sooo smooth wizards gj

  • Euronightmare

    Great card. Lame flavor text

  • jaya

    Cards like this are the reason mono black overtook mono blue in mEDH. Not sure if its gonna see ban but makes mono black the best mono color in edh for certain, competes with sidisi tho, which was alrdy broken beyond belief.
    I would say sidisi might still be better cuz 5 mana and doesnt require another minion support and u can just fetch ur 2 combo card and win by turn 4? Claps Claps for mono black.
    Thing is, Im not sure if its gonna see ban, its on the grey line for me, and wizards lack brain to decide what goes to banlist anyways.

    • Jacob Kodicovic

      This comment made very little sense

      • jaya

        Im guessing u dont play competitive EDH so im probably talking chinese to you.

    • DJ Pad

      Depends on what type of EDH (multiplayer/1v1). Blue is still better 1v1 than black, whereas in multiplayer I would argue mono-green is likely better than either.

      • jaya

        mEDH-multiplayer EDH
        And I would argue green doesnt stand a chance againts black. I agree about blue being best in french, counter draw too strong.

  • Hedronal

    I’m a bit sad he doesn’t mess with control or something, like in the story. Still super OP fixed Griselbrand of course.

  • Ur-Dragon

    This guy is fat enough to have trample but Ur-Dragon isnt. Ok. Brain logic flawless…

    • Happy The Cat

      ur is stated by his kill, while this guy isn’t. simple as that.

      • Ur-Dragon

        I think you mean skill and this demon skill is bad right? insta tutor for 2 life that requires a sac in black…Pff such a bad skill, lets give him trample to help out.
        The logic…I dunno why I even bother.
        Im still salty about the failure the perfection/union of draconic power was supposed to be…

        • Happy The Cat

          I said kill. as in the act of killing and presumably eating an opponent is enough to state the dragon of dragons, while demons are not so easly stated. cause they are jerks.

          • jaya

            You know u can just block ur-dragon with a birds of paradise or a drake for as long as you want and just rofl on it, while most of the big dragons like atarkas, hellkite overlord, dragon tyrant all have trample, it matters when u want to win via commander damage, which a commander like ur-dragon would rather do than this demon guy, so its counter-intuitive even.
            I cant possibly comprehend a reason why they didnt give Ur-dragon trample, I would even expect haste, but trample should be a given for any fat creature, specially since most fat dragons have flample.
            Totally missing the point why the supposed biggest dragon, that shares all the dragon mind, doesnt have AT LEAST trample.

          • Happy The Cat

            Ur does not need more than one kill. for he is not a tyrant or overlord. he has become enlightened, and has achieved tranquility. we should all strive to be more like Ur.

        • Gildan Bladeborn

          I believe your confusion can be attributed to auto-correct – Happy The Cat meant to type “sated by his kill” (to be satisfied), not “stated”.

    • ROHAN W

      XD

  • Tavis Carrillo

    Yo dog. Heard U like demonic tutor. So we made a flying 8/8 trample Demonic tutor That doesn’t stop tutoring.

    • DinduNuffin

      Yo instant speed tutor dawg

    • TomGalonska

      You know what makes cheap tutors (like demonic tutor) so great, you can cast them early into the game.
      This won’t make waves in standard/modern/leacy/vintage. But it’s a really good EDH-card, maybe even as the commander.
      But i can see this card beeing overhyped.

      • Tavis Carrillo

        I’m not arguing for competitive play, So.

        • TomGalonska

          Sorry, misunderstood, in casual-EDH this card will be suuuuper fun. ;)

  • Phoenix UNBENCHED

    he looks good enough to eat…

    • Shagoth

      You have to be careful, he has foul blood.

  • ROHAN W

    Can’t wait to play him in edh…

    • Tavis Carrillo

      Play while you can. Definitely going to get banned

      • Samuel Everett

        So many people are saying he will be banned for sure, but so, so few cards are banned in EDH – and people are aaaalways saying cards are going to be banned. Now I’m not saying he won’t be, for sure, but I have no idea how people can be so convinced about it one way or the other.

        We have had only two cards banned in the last four years of magic; Leovold was released in august 2016, and banned recently, Prophet of Kruphix was released in September 2013! – if anything this ought to tell anybody that there is every probability he will not be banned.

        But he might! …. I just don’t understand how people are so sure.

        • Tavis Carrillo

          Far to similar to griselbrand and even better in alot of ways.

          • Samuel Everett

            Hmm, I disagree I think. But this is just opinion..

            Griselbrand is self sustaining, that’s the really important difference I’d say. With some reanimation and a lucky hand you can have Griselbrand drawing cards almost indefinitely from as early as turn one (turn two with a less lucky hand).

            Whilst by the same margin, this guy on turn one or two is simply no better than any other beatstick.

            If we are not considering the early game, then by what margin are we judging him? That an 8cmc card can win the game, if you have enough creatures to sac to tutor for the combo you’re looking for? That is no different to virtually a thousand other cards.

            I’m not saying he’s not good, he really is. But I think the fact that he can’t do things by himself is really, really important.

          • Frosty

            I don’t see the bann happening. People are just jumping to conclusion and not analyzing the situation as a whole. Not counting early game shenanigans with cards like entomb and reanimate, this card isn’t the ‘best’ for the amount of investment it requires. You need 8 mana, ANOTHER creature, and you need to pay 2 life to activate his tutor each time, meaning unless you’re running an infinite combo(in which case you should have already won) your tutor is limited to the amount of creatures/life you have. Not to mention you probably wont have the mana to cast the cards you search for right away.

            Now lets take a look at other cards that do the same. For the same amount of mana that Razaketh cost, you can be casting Sidisi, and 1-2 other tutors. All without having to sacrifice other creatures as Sidisi can sacrifice himself. And yes you can say “But Razaketh does what all those cards do alone,” except he requires other creatures to do so. So as long as 1-2 mana drop tutors exist, I don’t see this 8 mana/2 life/creature sac costing guy being banned.

            The only thing I see this guy as being too powerful for, is that he’s costing 8 mana and also has 8/8 flying trample. That alone is strong. Normally guys like this would have a weaker p/t, or some drawback. But he does not.

          • jaya

            I dont think the reason he wont get ban is becuz 1-2 mana tutors exist, thats bs logic, the main reason he wont get banned is becuz sidisi didnt. Period. The trick is you dont need to tutor for more than 1-2 cards becuz mono black is full of 2 card combos.
            Ppl that are comparing this to diabolic revelations and the like totally missed the point of having a command that does what 1 of the best cards do. Thats the power of being legendary, if consacrated sphinx was legend it would prob been banned ages ago. Ppl should know by now, this format isnt new, that having a commander that tutors or draws is sign of bad news.

          • mehngo

            Pretty sure you just argued yourself into a hole. If all you need is another creature, isn’t that by default easier than having Sidisi and 1-2 low costing spells? Griselbrand got banned because he was oppressive as a commander and how he could reliably get combo pieces and end the game because of his card advantage. The key here is as a commander, so it’s only fair to give Razaketh the same analysis.

            Compared to Griselbrand, Razaketh costs the same and has a very similar ability that can get you combo pieces. The difference between costs and actual effects matters of course, but black definitely has easy access to cheap, recurrable creatures/ token generators to easily turn on his tutor. His ability also has a lot less of uncertainty attached to it, since you can search up specific cards at instant speed. The idea behind having him as a commander is that you can pretty easily build around the “disadvantage” of needing another creature. And that’s where I think he could be oppressive. No guarantee that he will get banned, but the potential is certainly there.

          • Dave

            Nothing like Griselbrand at all. Paying 7 life – in a 40 life game, mind you – for a whole new hand of cards and having a lifelink beatstick is nothing like Razaketh’s ability. Not gonna get banned, calling it now.

      • Nanya

        He’s not getting banned.

        Seedborn Muse, Sol Ring, Vorenclex, Maelstrom Wanderer, Jhoria, and Kaalia would all be banned before this guy is.

  • Don’t understand why anyone thinks this guy will get banned in edh. he is much slower than sidisi and maybe not even as versatile as xao dun

    • mehngo

      People are arguing that he’s at least as good as G-brand, which I can see. He doesn’t self-sustain himself though, but his ability is really easy to abuse and get combo pieces off of/grab tools out of your deck. We shall see.

    • Sascha Nax

      instant tutoring. 8 mana in black is nothing really.

    • Evan Grantham-Brown

      If he’s banned, it will be for what he does in the 99, not as a commander. Razaketh is to Golgari what Prophet of Kruphix was to Simic: He takes everything you’re already doing and pumps it full of Liquid Schwartz.

      1. Instant-speed, repeatable, zero mana cost sac outlet, *and*
      2. Repeatable tutor, *and*
      3. Fetchable by green creature tutors as well as black general tutors, *and*
      4. Can be cheated out with creature reanimation, *and*
      5. An 8/8 body with flying.

      I can’t imagine any Golgari EDH deck not being powered-up by this guy.

  • kmk888

    Liliana, Death’s Majesty was looking for a reanimation target in Standard. I didn’t dare hope it would be this good. Razaketh’s tutoring turns creatures into cards, so you just have to ensure that those cards generate more creatures. Consider the following engine:

    4x Prized Amalgam
    4x Haunted Dead
    4x Liliana, Death’s Majesty
    3x Razaketh, the Foulblooded

    Here are some key interactions:
    Haunted Dead allows you to discard Razaketh
    Razaketh likes recursive creatures and creature tokens to tutor with
    Lili’s reanimation triggers Prized Amalgam
    Razaketh can tutor for more Amalgams, fueling the reanimation engine further
    Razaketh can tutor for Lili in response to non-exiling removal so you can get him back again

    The way these all combine is such that if you reanimate Razaketh with Liliana, you can sacrifice your Haunted Deads to tutor for Amalgams. You then discard these to reanimate the Haunted Deads and Amalgams, then you can sacrifice those to get more Amalgams (or whatever you want). If Razaketh is allowed to hit the board he can spiral out of control very quickly with this type of engine.

    I almost forgot to mention that this sequence gets you an 8/8 flample beater and a great planeswalker that ticks up while making zombies.

    Also, the whole engine is mono-black. Don’t let Amalgam fool you, you don’t need to cast him. You just need these 11 cards along with discard outlets. You can use Cryptbreaker and Collective Brutality, which are good cards and leave you still in mono-black. You can also get some great additions from other colors: Red gives you Cathartic Reunion and Lightning Axe to discard, which are both great. Green gives you Grim Flayer to mill, Traverse to tutor pieces, and Ishkanah as Ishkanah. Blue gives you Pull from Tomorrow and counterspells, as well as the ability to cast Amalgam. Mardu gives you Nahiri, which is a discard outlet that can also ultimate for Razaketh.

    If anyone is reading this and wants to play a deck with these cards, my only request is that it be named, “Razzle Dazzle”.

    • DarthinvaderIX

      I’m taking this
      P.S.: adding a zombie reanimation shell

    • raziel11

      incidentally, my character in a game i played was named “razzle dazzle”. i will now make this deck, excuse me.

    • raziel11

      razzle dazzle in order of cmc:
      4x razmataz
      4x death’s majesty
      4x haunted dead
      3x bone picker
      4x amalgam
      4x murder
      3x crow of dark tidings
      3x diregraaf colossus
      2x banewhip punisher
      4x torment of hail fire
      4x kenra eternal
      4x push
      18x swamp
      4x fetid pool

      monoblack for the most part, but fetid pools let you emergency hardcast amalgams.
      crows help fill your graveyard, kill spells can get you bone pickers cheap. all noncreature spells except liliana are removal. may be weak to aggro, pending play tests. khenra eternal is just a good 2 drop.

      • kmk888

        This is fine as a casual list, but you can’t play competitive standard with things like crow of dark tidings, banewhip punisher, torment of hailfire, and khenra eternal in your list.

        • raziel11

          were you expecting anything but casual from a deck named “razzle dazzle”? i don’t play competitive standard, there are only 4-6 decks worth playing at any time in standard.

  • Jude

    I think hes gonna be edh only tbh. Really thinking now, hes not near as broken as he looks. Scary dtrong but not broken. I see what people say about how easy it is to just pluck wincons out of your deck, and i already posted that i dont think hell get banned cause he cant self sustain.

    Standard: way too high cost, ability cant be really used efficiently and if it can he IS the endgame. If you can use an 8/8 flying trampling beast of a demon, you dont need to tutor.
    Legacy modern and vintage: too high cmc for a card that cant win the game alone. Gbriz can just win by himself which is why hes a reanimator target all day.
    Edh: huge bomb with massive playability in most black strats but balanced because u can only use 1 in a deck and have to accomodate his ability which is eady to do. Even as the commander hes too slow to actually warrant a ban

    Overall huge fan, limited use but where he sees use hes fun. Maybe not competitve but fun

    • Happy The Cat

      if he does see play outside of edh it will be because for a control deck having literally every option in your deck for the added price of two hats and a dork is kinda massive. In a draw-go style control deck that relies on a handful of flash creatures he could be a massive finisher, simply because he could remain uncontested on the board until he beats a player to death.

    • DarthinvaderIX

      tutor for 2+ approach?

  • Deadly Berry

    And deliver they did… he’s so astoundingly powerful and beautiful. EDH welcomes you with open arms my boy.

  • kasigah

    Love the card gameplay-wise, but that flavor text? Really? Instead of a unique quote or cool lore tidbit, we get… boring exposition that we’ve known for months?

    • Brian Schmidt

      So, what would happen if Razaketh were to die because Bolas destroyed the plane but it wasn’t by Lilliana’s hand? It’s not like he can Planeswalk off the plane. Just curious because I have no idea about her lore only that she was granted her powers by three demons and she is trying to kill them because it would open her powers up even more.

      • Antoine Boudinet

        she made a deal with 4 demons, there is yet Belzenlok to get it’s card
        Her principal problem is that those demons became her masters in exange for her powers so as long as they die it doesn’t matter how I guess

      • John Scott

        well bolas could presumably just planesshift him away as i believe he has the power to do so, of course presuming razaketh wan’t just a pawn to initiate the grand scheme

      • kasigah

        Well, 4 demons Kothophed, Grizelbrand, Razaketh, and (if the wiki has the correct name) Belzenlok.

        And if Razaketh dies, hey, that’s one less demon Liliana has to worry about, whether she killed it or not. And it’s not because it makes her more powerful, so much as it is that she doesn’t like being, essentially, a slave. What it was, she became a Planeswalker before the Mending, which meant she was in essence, an immortal god. The Mending happened, stripped her of her immortality, and she made a deal with her 4 demon lords for youth and agelessness. Problem is, that meant she was at their beck and call, so she’s killing them so that she can have her cake, and eat it too.

        Hopefully that cleared up your questions, but if you have any more, I’ll answer what I’m able!

      • Him

        Razaketh is dead, so mute point.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          Hypotheticals are fine.

      • Tolle

        Don’t know, but there were four demons. 1 to go.

  • Miles Rinesmith

    Going right into my Kaalia deck lets me use dead creatures as tutors love it.

  • Lord Gonti Of The Orzov Networ

    Razmataz is my bae

  • Giby86 .

    I really, really, REALLY dislike this kind of cards for EDH. Tutors are bad enough, but infinite tutors all the time forever? Come on. Not fun at all and completely against the philosophy of the format. It’s not strong enough to be ban-worthy, but it’s the kind of card I would very much want to see go.

    • Tavis Carrillo

      Some people like competitive EDH

      • Giby86 .

        A) Competitive EDH is an oximoron. B) This card is not that good in that scenario anyway.

        • TheAweDude

          A) Competitive MTG is equally an oxymoron.
          B) It fills much of the same roles that Griselbrand does, mainly being a prime reanimation/cheat target.

          • AlaAlba

            Griselbrand is banned in EDH as well, and with good reason. I expect this probably will be too.

          • Giby86 .

            A) Uhm, what? MTG is a very competitive game, it has tournaments, money prizes and all that. Commander was SPECIFICALLY created as a refuge for those who want to experience the game non-competitively.
            B) It most certainly does not. Griselbrand is its own engine and even if they immediately remove it it still gives you as many cards as you want, instant speed, no strings attached. For this one to work you have to have an engine already in place, or you would maybe sac a couple of dudes and get a couple of cards. Powerful, yes, but FAR from being banworthy.

        • Mr.Mayhem631

          It exists nonetheless.

      • Him

        Giby’s argument is that reduces game variance, not that it is necessarily is OP. I would also argue that they missed a chance by not making him control another player’s turn. In the story, he literally takes control of Liliana.

        • DarthinvaderIX

          We don’t need another emrakul, even one which is mixed with westvale abbey

          • Him

            Emrakul was over was unpopular because it was OP. I’m not suggesting that this be “Sac a creature: take an opponent’s turn” or anything of the sort. I just think that ‘worst fears’ effects make games crazy and interesting, and they should have found a way to tack one onto him while keeping him balanced.

          • Giby86 .

            Also, Emrakul is not at all OP in Commander.

    • DarthinvaderIX

      What is the philosophy of this (or any) format? And how would this go against it.

    • MrAptronym

      I couldn’t agree more. EDH is singleton for a reason.

  • Aarhg

    I like the fact that the artwork is the same one they used in Magic Duels a while ago. Makes me think the Magic Duels art for Belzenlok is gonna be used for his card whenever that will be made. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/486d691f2e0bd8404e23bf744ea847663b7304ff8109eea6af8a9c382adf8a15.png

  • Vizzerdrix

    I hate seeing a demon Dragon or angel and thinking this is perfect for kaalia bc truthfully you could play garbage in kaalia and still win but this really does work well in kaalia and can protect her from being tucked while getting a threat

    • Tolle

      Tuck hasn’t been a rule in a while now. Now if Thalia goes to be put in the hand or library you can put her in the command zone. Literally the only way to permanently remove a commander is to get it permanently phased out.

      • Nharzhool

        Not quite right. You can also take control of a player and exile the commander and choose to not use the replacement effect.

        This happened to me…too many times.

        • Tolle

          You have a weird meta if they are going to do that!

          • Nharzhool

            Yeah, my meta is weird…but it’s still kinda funny. Fortunately I build my decks so that I can still play without the commander.

  • MrAptronym

    I don’t see this getting cast as your commander and you NOT winning. Very similar to griselbrand (though they matched up the 8s)

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    Everyone hates my favorite black cards. Braids, Grisselbrand, and it looks like Razaketh, too.

  • Derek Niles

    The flavor text is like a hint in the loading screen of a video game, totally lifeless

    • Nharzhool

      “When your life is running low, use some lifegain or kill your opponent quickly to ensure you don’t die.”

      • Derek Niles

        precisely

    • Evan Grantham-Brown

      The flavor text is really amazingly bad.

      “If you know Liliana’s life history, here’s something you already know. If you don’t know Liliana’s life history, here’s something you have no reason to care about. And if you know English, here’s some clunky awkward phrasing and mixed tenses.”

  • Julian Filbert

    this is so going in my plunder the graves edh deck

  • Nharzhool

    So you run Teysa, Orzhov Scion as the commander. Tutor for this. Sac a creature to tutor for Darkest Hour. Bam…go get whatever you want as long as you have life to pay. Combo out.

  • Shagoth

    Wow, your comment contributed so much more to the discussion of this card. If it wasn’t for your sass, the Earth might have stopped spinning, so thanks for that valuable contribution.

  • Kaiser

    What he is trying to say is: this guy is equal strong as Griselbrand. If you dont draw something that wins the game with Brand, you draw another 7 cards for sure. 14 life is nothing if you can win when you untap your mana. This is “i sac 3 guys, pay 6 and draw my combo pieces, not counter? thanks for playing”

  • Hedronal

    Oh, such a relevant comment to the card, the game, and anything ever. Thanks for giving me something to read as an effective use of my time.

  • DJ Pad

    The point is: Griselbrand is good on his own, this is not.

    The decks that want to abuse big, broken, creatures (Sneak and show, reanimator etc.) generally aren’t playing a lot of other creatures too.

  • Kaiser

    Yeah, that is the main reason for not playing this in the same type of deck as Griselbrand. And the only thing that makes him “worse” but worse than a BANNED card is still pretty much op. What is you see this coming in to play with 3 creatures or 2? your opponent not need to have a army of tokens for win a game with this neither. This could be banned even for be just “less strong” than brand.

  • Shagoth

    I wasn’t actually saying it was as tough as Griselbrand, but I think it is a little behind and I believe that this should get banned in Commander.

  • Glad to know I’m not the only one sassin’ the sassers. ^_^

  • DJ Pad

    Why? For 8 mana, play diabolic revelation and get 3 cards with sacrificing any creatures.

  • Shagoth

    Put this in a token deck and it’s a heck of a lot more than 3 for 8. On one hand it is a build around card in that sense, but on the other hand it’s a build around card where you as soon as you get to 8 mana you win.

  • DJ Pad

    Honestly if you can’t win with a tutor for ANY 2-3 cards in your deck you’re building it wrong, needing more than 3 cards is win-more.

    Not saying it’s bad in EDH, it’s obviously good. I’ll be throwing it in my Kaalia deck. It’s not Griselbrand, and it’s not a card that will likely ever see play in Legacy/Modern. I’m just trying to calm the ban-panic that’s seems to happen when people can’t evaluate cards.

  • Shagoth

    It’s not necessarily win more if you reliably get them all on the spot. There aren’t very many infinite combos in black. Also tutoring up some stuff to protect your combo is efficient.