• Fifteen premium foil cards, including five with new art.
    An exclusive Spindown™ life counter.
    A collector’s guide.
    Each card has been printed using a foil process unique to the From the Vault series.
    From the Vault: Angels will be available worldwide in English only, and will have an extremely limited print run.
    All cards are black bordered and tournament legal. This means that these cards are legal for use in any tournaments where the original printings are still legal.
  • Derek Niles

    Sweet, I’ve been waiting for this for awhile

  • Ian

    So taking bets of literally the only angel they could put in here.
    Baneslayer
    Avacyn
    Iona
    Linvala
    Reya

    I would bet serra angel would be in here. Or Serra herself I guess.

    Blossom
    Butters
    Buttercup

    That’s 10 possibly 11.

  • Deathavails

    Well that picture that they revealed may be indomitable archangel based solely on the fact that is has 2 blades in hand….

    As for other angels that I personally would like to see:
    Linvala,
    Iona,
    Avacyn,
    Kaalia,
    Sublime Archangel,
    and last but not least
    Archangel of Thune

    • Matt Stone

      Kaalia is a human bruv :( plus with the CA reprint I doubt we will see Kaalia. Sorry dude.

      • Antares

        Commander’s Arsenal reprint? When was THAT announced?

  • Necrachilles

    No love for Bruna?

    • Necrachilles

      Also, if we’re going to take guesses at which angels will be in, just go with the shittiest ones that come to mind and that’ll be them, least with the way these have been going lately.

  • Eryops

    Since Serra Angel has been a staple of core sets, and they’re going to be going by the wayside, I’d like to see her go out with a bang and some new art.

    • Melissa Juice

      Serra Angel could always show up in a set. Just a bit of reflavoring would do fine for most sets.

      • alex

        And MaRo has been saying it’s quite likely we will return to Dominaria at some point.

        • Melissa Juice

          Yes, that too. It just needs a bit of focusing, I think.

      • Antares

        Personally, I’d rather have Serra Angel as an uncommon with awesome new art, than occupying space here.

        • Melissa Juice

          I’m fine, either way. I really doubt it will be in this set.

  • UltraKilleR7

    This picture must be for Baneslayer I think

    • I thought the exact same thing when I saw it!

  • stormcrow v2

    Racist angels?

  • LeonFA

    Well, prediction time:

    Twilight Shepherd (Probably the reveal art card)
    Iona (Likely, but would understand if not with MM”2″ coming up)
    Avacyn (Would be insane not too)
    Linvala (Likely, but would understand if not with MM”2″ coming up)
    Jenara (Legendaries from FTVs make people happy)
    Baneslayer Angel (Obvious inclusion)
    Desolation Angel (Black can get Desolation, Fallen, or Crypt Angel. I feel like Fallen has been printed enough, and Desolation strikes me as more likely than Crypt due to its White support).
    Maelstrom Archangel (Rainbows show up in FTV often. Easy money on a bet)
    Akroma, Angel of Fury (The only Mono-Red Angel, and they just reprinted the original Akroma in Anthologies)
    Gisela, Siguarda, and Bruna (Helps support the colors with less Angels)
    Herald of War (They throw some junk cards into these, and this is junk and supports Angel Tribal)
    Angel of Despair (This is one beloved card that I doubt will be left out)
    Platinum Angel (The only artifact creature Angel besides the bizarre Copper-Leaf Angel, would be a smart call due to its high casual appeal)

    Again, predictions. With my reasons for making them. Man its been a while since I did this but I love getting discussions going over stuff like this. What do you guys think?

    • I really like these guesses but I also wouldn’t be surprised if Archangel of Thune showed up, that being said I also won’t be surprised if she didn’t.

      • Antares

        Any thoughts on Razia or Aurelia? I can understand the latter not being in there, but Razia was a pretty big deal to Ravnica’s . . . . yeah, nvm. Not really. Still, she’s one of the most recognizable angels, no?

        I think Jenara, Iona, Linvala, and Avacyn + Friends are very likely.What are your thoughts no LIghtning Angel? I know she was in a duel deck, but I could see it being a thing. . .

  • Melissa Juice

    That art is freakin’ amazing.
    And I don’t really care for angels.

  • DJ Pad

    Seems like Iona, Avacyn and Linvala will be reprinted for price issues (either in this set or MM2). The rest will likely be unexiciting filler aside from possibly Baneslayer and Gisela as so many of these angels have already been reprinted so many times in recent years. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some angels get foiled for the first time (Archangel of Strife, Guiding Spirit, Herald of Serra, Selenia Dark Angel, Seraph, Tariel etc.). Usually a small angel or two like a Serra avenger, Voice of all etc.

    On the other hand, should keep the cost of this down (Similar to FTV annihilation) and prevent stores from charging 50+ dollars over MRSP.

  • akakj7

    lets hope its better than FtV Annihilation

  • #win

    I’m keeping in mind that there are frequent support cards thrown into these sets, so I’m thinking Kalia and Entreat the Angels are safe bets too. I’m Really crossing my fingers for Avacyn AOH and Linvalla. Iona or Baneslayer would be sick too but if any of them don’t hit this, MM2 will likely

  • Already buying it and i dont know what is in it.

    • Ultramegalord

      same my bday is the 23 ftv are my present to my self

  • It drops on my birthday. Its a sign. Im buying this thing. My kaalia deck can only get so erect.

  • DaWalt

    HAHAHAHA! Avacyn EDH just got that much better

  • Ultramegalord

    might want to unload my foil aurelia just in case…….also speaking of aurelia wanna bet we get aurelia’s fury as an angel spell?

  • Antares

    So I looked through all the angel cards available, and I saw which list *I* would make (if it were up to me).
    1) Avacyn, Angel of Hope (most recognizable angel in recent memory, also Price)
    2) Sigarda, Host of Herons (only G/W angel)
    3) Gisela, Blade of Goldnight (A R/W angel, also one of Avacyn’s commanders)
    4) Bruna, Light of Alabaster (A U/W Angel, also part of Avacyn’s posse)
    5) Linvala, Keeper of Silence (Price)
    6) Iona, Shield of Emeria (Price)

    7) Empyrian Archangel (a 5 color angel HAS to be in there, after all)
    8) Jenara, Asura of War (tri-color, legendary (aka, EDH Fodder), very recognizable)
    9) Angel of Despair (covers Black as a color)
    10) Razia, Boros Archangel (one of the more recognizable angels in magic’s history)
    11) Some form of Akroma (not sure if Red or White version)
    12) Platinum Angel (artifact Angel)
    13) Exalted Angel (Morph Angel)
    14) Restoration Angel (Flash Angel)
    15) Reya Dawnbringer (a recognizable angel from mtg’s history) or Aurelia Warleader (because she has a special place in my heart)

    As for what I’d *WANT* to get Alt arts:
    – Avacyn (Because she’s awesome)

    – Aurelia (because, again, special place in heart) or Razia (who wouldn’t want a foil alt art Boros Guildmaster)

    – Jenara (foil alternate art commander? YES PLEASE)
    – Akroma (whichever one got put in)

    – Iona, Shield of Emeria (because awesome)

    • traveler

      Bane slayer should fit somewhere on that list too but otherwise I would agree

      • Antares

        If I had to pick, I’d take out Exalted Angel or Reya Dawnbringer for her (though I’d rather Baneslayer just come back in a set). One of them got printed recently (conspiracy), while the other is really more of a throwback for fun.

        So my predictions are:
        – A G/W angel with no third (or more) color (options are either Sigarda or Gabriel Angelfire)
        – a U/W angel with no third color (the only Mono-U angel is Illusory Angel. . . I don’t think Wizards would derp THAT badly)
        – A Mono-B or W/B angel (with no third + color), giving us 7 options (though 2 have seen recent printings)
        – Akroma, Angel of Wrath as the only Mono-R angel
        – The only 5 color angel (Maelstrom Archangel)
        – Platinum Angel or Filigree Angel (as artifact angels)

        The other 10 are honestly up in the air. I’d hope Wizards includes lots of the old (and hard to acquire) Legendary angels (e.g. Jenara and Razia), as well as the ridiculously priced angels (e.g. Iona, Linvala, etc). They *have* been known to DERP very hard in the past, so it wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility for them to drop the ball on this. Hopefully we can get the set spoiled before LGS’s run out of pre-release orders.

    • Exyrea

      Gideon Angelfire is also a G/W angel and counts as an angel by judges ruling {speaking as a level 3 judge) so I’m going to have to sin you for claiming their Is only 1 G/W angel

    • Robert FakeLastName

      elesh norn might wiggle its way on through though not actually an angel.

    • Robert FakeLastName

      well it seems both akromas got put in and both got altered lol.

  • edd

    Maelstrom Archangel

  • Henri Faure

    Hey guys, come on, we didn’t get a damnation int the FTV: Annihilation, so I’m pretty sure we won’t be getting a Linvala in this FTV

    • Skilgannon

      I think the lack of Damnation in FTV is possibly a hint to Damnation being in Modern Masters 15, but could easily be wrong. I could see Linvala being in this.

      • Matt Stone

        I think Damnation in the next MM too :) big iconic chase card to be the ‘face’ card of the set, that being said, is Damnation a big card in Modern? I don’t remember it being so..food for thought.

        • Skilgannon

          It doesn’t get the deck count that cards like lightning bolt do, but I think it sees a fair amount of play

          • Matt Stone

            Would be nice anyway :D nice set foil damnation would be luvvly jubbly

  • Daniel Gilmore

    Stupid angels. Stupid set. Just going to be a bunch of broken-ass white cards to ruin EDH even more for me. Thanks WOTC.

    • DJ Pad

      EDH is full of broken cards. If you’re not playing with any in your decks you’re doing it wrong.

      • Melissa Juice

        Not really. Commander was built to be fun. Trying to break the game is against the core idea.

      • Lord_of_Riots

        You inherently cannot “do it wrong”. Commander was built as a social format, so as long as what you play still follows the core tenants of Commander (100 cards, singleton, and a commander in the command zone), then it’s fine. Some, if not most playgroups elect to value fun over good, and so broken cards are often frowned upon.

    • Steak Sauce

      AGREED! ALL CREATURES WITH POWER AND TOUGHNESS STRONGER THAN STORMCROW SHOULD BE BANNED FROM EDH AND EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES DESERVES TO BE STRIPPED AND PUT ON PUBLIC DISPLAY FOR EVERYONE TO LAUGH AT!!!!!!1

      • Golem2

        All the storm crows in the universe can’t save you from wild slash/arcbond, ALL HAIL MONO RED BURN, THE GREAT FLAME, IT WILL CONSUME US ALL AND TORCH THE NON-BELIEVERS!

    • Melissa Juice

      What a childish complaint.

    • TJ

      Most of these are already EDH staples, find angel killers and play something with u/b. Mutilate kills all angels, including Avacyn, Angel of hope. Doesn’t help much when she and every creature on the board are at most 0/0.

  • Matt Stone

    Would like to see Avacyn, Iona, Linvala and Angel of Despair for my own EDH reasons. But hmm…they (FTV sets) are never that good. Apart from Exiled?

    That’s blatantly Twilight Shepherd right?

    I also personally hate the FTV foiling process wish they would change it to the Judge/FNM foiling. Let’s start a petition, who’s with me!??!?

  • Ugin

    I would like Linvala to have a new art , that’s would me just good

  • Josh Kaufman

    Avacyn is really expensive, so it makes sense. But I’m guessing 3 good Angels and 12 garbage ones. Serra Angel has to be invcluded, it’s the shivan dragon of Angels. So I’m going to go with Baneslayer, Avacyn, and Akroma as the 3 expensive ones. Also red Akroma over white for something more than mono white.

    Either way, there won’t be resto, there will be some random Angels we have only seen in Momir, some gold Angels, and that’s about it.

    Either way it will sell at stores for 10x MSRP as usual, and won’t be worth it.

    Actually now that I think about it, I’m 100% there will be an avacyn… It will just be that terrible avacyn from M15.

    • Alex Egertsen

      I think we have to remember that what they put into FTV’s usually goes along with cards that have been showcased in a Pro Tour Top 8 slot. Every From the Vaults have had cards that were the epitome of said theme. We have had a Commander Arsenal yes, that really goes to show that the PT staples or memorable staples from a Pro Tour are as equal in power and popularity to those that see a ton of EDH/Commander play.

  • xSean

    Avacyn angel of hope, baneslayer, Iona, and . . . Radiant Archangel! Please?

    • LightandFire676

      Not gonna lie, if it has Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Baneslayer Angel, and Iona, Shield of Emeria, I am SOLD. All of the 12 other cards could be foil fillers and I would still buy it. In fact I feel like those 3 together is a huge stretch. But we’re magic players, we can hope, right? :D And who knows?

  • floyd316

    Razia, Boros Archangel
    Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    Angel of Despair
    Platinum Angel
    Exalted Angel
    Twilight Shepherd
    Baneslayer Angel
    Maelstrom Archangel
    Serra Angel
    Restoration Angel
    Stoic Angel

    Akroma’s Memorial
    Angelic Destiny
    Entreat the Angels
    Angel’s Grace

  • tocoman

    i want kaalia to be in this

    • Fore Chan

      That’s not going to happen.

      • tocoman

        i can dream

        • ShahrazadMan

          I want it 2

  • FTV: Reserved List

    For those you listing 3+ $30 cards and 3+ $10 I want you know that you forgot the MSRP of this is $35. If Avacyn is in this (and she really has to be) the best we can hope for is something like this:

    Avacyn
    Serra Angel
    Serra Avenger
    Bruna
    Exalted Angel *judge art
    Twilight Shepherd *Obviously the teaser art
    Guardian Seraph
    Razia
    Luminarch Ascension
    Razia’s Purification
    Decree of Justice
    Aurelia’s Fury
    Angel of Despair
    Angel Token

    • Antares

      Wait, there’s 5 “Not Angels” in there, buddy (No, I’m not counting a stupid TOKEN as an angel). I *REALLY* can’t see them doing “From the Vault: Angels” and putting “NOT ANGELS” in there. Say what you will about the FtV’s, they fit their theme. I’m expecting the full 15 cards to be angels.

      Also, Just because the MSRP is 35$ doesn’t mean that the value of the cards has to equal 35$. Look at the Commander 2014 decks (cough, True Name Nemesis, cough), or Commander’s Arsenal. Neither of those had equal value to its MSRP (in fact, both were well above it).There are several cards that NEED reprinting soon (see: Linvala, Iona, Avacyn) to make them more accessible, some that fit the theme and show how varied angels can be in magic (Filigree Angel and Maelstrom Archangel), and some that are just old fan favorites (like Razia and Akroma, Angel of Fury). I strongly doubt all the ones we WANT will be in there, but we can certainly hope for it, right?

      PS. I’ve always thought using the secondary market as justification for increasing MSRP (or why a product should not include a valuable card) to be BS. It’s a GAME, and it should be accessible to everyone, not just people who played it 2 decades ago when it started or have a trust fund. Heck, before Modern Masters, RTR, and KTK, modern was a dying format due to the barrier to entry (Particularly RTR and KTK, because the manabases were/are stupidly expensive to play competitively). Vintage and Legacy are both dying formats because the cards needed to play it competitively are so stupidly expensive that only the old school (and I mean OLD SCHOOL) players and people with stupid amounts of funds can play it. I say, screw the secondary market value, and give people the 120-150 dollars of cards they want. Lord knows, there’s no reason to do it other than “whiny collectors that form an INCREDIBLY small minority of the player base will riot. Online. Where nobody cares about it and it won’t affect our bottom line.”

      PPS. The reserved list is an outdated restriction that is hurting the game (particularly vintage/legacy as formats), and should go the way of the dodo.

      • Guest

        ^THIS

    • Unnecessaryrant

      About that Jace the Mind Sculptor in ftv20… Don’t use msrp in factoring what’s in these at all. Also, you only listed 14 with one being a token(which would only show up if a token generator was printed, not to fill a slot. Also, non-angel specific cards like Aurelia’s fury and Razia’s Purification won’t make their way here. Ftv Dragons only had non dragons specifically relating to dragons(ie dragonstorm). I would also discredit Decree of Justice and Serra Avatar because they’ve been printed especially recently. I Think Serra Angel is quite viable as its one that will be difficult to reprint after the core sets are abolished. Beyond that I think that Guardian Seraph and Exalted Angel are weak(but possible) choices. That being said, I lo the possibility of Luminarch Ascension although I was personally calling for Entreat The Angels. Avacyn is looking like the pull card for the set and yeah, Twilight Shepard is definitely the face card. I Think Bruna is possible, but as you list no green I think Sigarda is a better candidate. I Think that wizards is going to try surprising us with more dual colored, tri colored, and even a potential five colored angel since that’s also what they did in dragons and other ftv’s. Angel of despair is a great choice but again, this wouldn’t be its first rodeo so I would think desolation angel might be a better black angel. I think other money cards like Linvalla and Iona are just as likely as not, but with mm2 on the horizon I wouldn’t bet on both. I Saw someone mention Platnum Angel earlier and that’s another really interesting point. All in all, I’m calling for a solid Avacyn, sigarda, one bant colored(because there are like thee), one Mardu colored(either tariel or Kalia because she’s support), Platnum angel, desolation angel/deathpact angel, Luminarch ascension/entreat the Angels, I’m thinking one uw and one rw as well as maelstrom archangel. With this being the last convenient time to print Serra angel, she’s likely to rear her ugly head and I bet one of the Zendikar block Angel is going to show up. That leaves three. Game on

    • TJ

      Msrp doesn’t mean cheap cards. ALL ftvs, except 20 msrp’d for 34.99, thank the sellers for the 100$ prices and up. This is one area WotC should come down on. As far as a secondary card market, mtg sells all complete sets of all core and expansions at 75. So players really drive up prices, not WotC.

  • Now we just need another commander’s arsenal. That had to have been the best money i ever spent on magic.

  • Ezmara

    I could go either way on whether Avacyn and Iona (my two favorites are in this). Based on previous from the vaults the best the put in ranges from Reya Dawnbringer all the way to them

  • ShahrazadMan

    Also known as “FTV Wizards has run out of good ideas.”

    Seriously? ANGELS?
    Y not demons?
    (I just want Griselbrand)

    • SirMannyOrtiz

      I disagree but can’t figure out a way to express myself without sounding like a jerk.

      • Ultramegalord

        so we have ftv angels, ftv dragons. so eventually they will have ftv demons, sphinxes, humans,vampires, zombies, lords, leaders, planeswalkers, elementals, legends,enchantments, instants, sorceries, equipment(wouldnt be fair would have to have all 3 kaldra pieces:)), remembrance (killed of carecters such as braids), dragons2 (cause they can)and if it lasts long enofe ftv blocks/ planes (just cards from a certain block or plane such as innistrad or alara)………….yea

        • JEREMY KUUSISTO

          ALREADY HAD LEGENDS

        • danthewalrusman

          Ftv walkers

        • OrphanSlayer

          They’re doing each colors’ iconic: Dragons, Angels, Sphinxs, Hydras, and Demons. Saying they’ll do every tribe is idiotic.

          • TPK

            Aren’t wizards more iconically blue? And I’d be more likely to give beasts to green. I guess they aren’t as splashy as sphinxes or hydras, though.

          • TJ

            Sphinxes are where the heavy blue power is much of the times.

        • TJ

          Already have legends and artifacts.

      • ShahrazadMan

        I appreciate it.

    • Melissa Juice

      Huh? This is a pretty typical idea. They’d be dumb not to release something like this, as popular as angels are.
      They will likely do FTV: Demons.

      • Dr. Burn Crow

        I would likely buy that.

    • Matt Wasser

      I would like to see ftv Slivers

      • certee

        slivers already had a premium deck series, FTV slivers would basically be the same thing except non-foil

        • Matt Wasser

          They could just use slivers that weren’t in the premium deck series deck. Besides duel decks divine vs. demonic, that had angles now they have ftv angles, so why not ftv slivers even though they had a premium deck.

          • TJ

            Duel decks aren’t the same as PDS. In all PDS, all cards are all foiled, duel decks only gets two foils.

        • TJ

          Errrr, all cards in FTV sets are foil

      • ShahrazadMan

        Lord, so would I. I would just buy it and rebuild my amazing slivers EDH.

  • marco

    I knew some day this FTV will come :D

    I think the angels will be:

    -Linvala

    -Avacyn (hope or guardian)

    -Akroma angel of fury

    -Serra angel

    -Serra avenger

    -Twilight Shepherd

    -Razzia

    -Aurelia

    -Restoration angel

    -Exalted angel

    -Archangel of strife

    -Basandra

    -Iridiscent angel

    -Platinum angel

    -Radiant, archangel

    other posibilities are fallen angel, reya, jenara and selenia
    next year FTW walkers

    • Hades Gate

      Kaalia is like 20$ so maybe her too :)

      • Baranek

        Kaalia is not an Angel, so rather not

    • Xauve

      Iona…?

    • Andy Dondes

      Iona

    • HighPriest

      I think Fallen Angel should be in there, more likely than some of the listed ones. Selenia would be good too and could use a new look. Same with Radiant, really would like to see her! Reya’s been reprinted quite a bit, so they might skip her. Depending how much old school they want to feature Gabiel might be included, though I don’t really want to see him.
      If they want to screw with people, they’ll include Copper-Leaf Angel. :D

      • TPK

        Selenia is on the reserved list, but the rest are good, I think.

  • Guest

    Kalia is a human not an angel :( and I think the art above may be Angel of despair…

    • Kalia please

      Kalia is human, but she is Angel support. Don’t crush our dreams just yet

      • HighPriest

        No, she’s just as much Dragon and Demon support so don’t think she’s going to be in there. And she really shouldn’t.

    • James

      That doesn’t even vaguely resemble Angel of Despair… It’s not dark enough. The angel is almost entirely white, there’s almost no black in her design unless you’re counting the fact that it’s night time in the picture.

      • TJ

        Doesn’t necessarily mean much. How about shivan Dragon from ftv Dragons, doesn’t look like any of his predecessors.

        • James

          It’s still a big, red dragon– It’s not SIMILAR, but I wouldn’t call it dissimilar, either.

  • Xinck

    I know this probably wont be in but geist of saint draft, it makes a angel so it partly makes sense (Not saying it fully would). Though it would be a cool idea i think, though it wont cause it also partly doesn’t make sense.

  • wrath236

    i see this and instantly scream BUYING THIS because edh thats why

  • OrphanSlayer

    No one’s mentioned Voice of All….

  • Kaiso

    Akroma, Baneslayer, Mealstrom archangel, Platinum angel, Blinding angel, linvala, Twilight shepherd, Luminous angel, Voice of all, Radiant Archangel, angel of despair, Avacyn, Desolation angel and Avenging angel is my prediction

    • bobby

      what no iona?

      • OrphanSlayer

        Not with Modern Masters 2015 around the corner…

        • Antares

          Considering Iona sees, OH, about ZERO play in any tournament worthy Modern deck, I’d say we’re FAR more likely to see Iona here, and Linvala in MM15. Frankly, I think that “There’s another set that could have her” and “secondary market value” are very stupid reasons for why unique products shouldn’t include cards.

          I’m definitely hoping for the set to include at least 2 of the 3 big expensive angels (Avacyn, Iona, or Linvala), if not all three. Likely? Meh. Possible? Yes. The way to get this to sell out in a single day? YARP.

          • OrphanSlayer

            Wut? Urzatron is literally the most played control deck. And Gifts is the 4th most played. Check your facts next time, scooter.

          • Antares

            Look at Decklists, buddy.

            Urzatron is:
            a) a combo deck
            b) Uses Karn, Wurmcoil, and now Ugin as its win cons. At least, the GOOD urzatron decks do. Iona does not appear in any Top8 (or even Top 16) Tron deck out there. The tron decks that exist are Mono-U tron and Gruul tron. Neither uses Iona. G/R also adds in an Emrakul sometimes.

          • OrphanSlayer

            Are you dense? GiftTron is a thing. C’mon kid, when you check your facts make sure to check all of them.

          • Antares

            Apparently I am. XD

            What’s a GiftTron deck list look like? I’ve never seen Tron (at least, competitive Tron) be anything but G/R, or Mono-U. It seems to me like Ugin/Karn make enough win-cons that you wouldn’t really want to have Iona (triple White)

          • OrphanSlayer

            Have you seen Gifts before? Iona costs {W}{3}. Gifts Ungiven, put Iona and Unburial Rights in grave, cast for flashback. Gifts is also instant. You also run Wurmcoils as an alternative wincon, along with Celestial Collonade. Azorius Signet gives you plenty of color to activate 2-3 Collonades per turn.

    • Maelstrom Archangel would be really cool in a foily.

  • Sjcowosnsoamemdofke

    Avacyn seems likely and so does Entreat the Angels. Other things that make angels include Moonsilver Spear, Luminarch Ascension, and Sigil of the empty throne. Akroma is THE angel, so I can’t see her NOT being in here. Angelic Destiny is cool and angel themed while not being itself an angel. Fallen Angel is the OG Unangelic Angel, so that demands a reprint. Baneslayer Angel is just good and want it.

    • TJ

      Akroma seems to been replaced by baneslayer, faster drop and life. By the time Akroma hits the field you could have at least two of these if not dropping a third shortly there after.

  • Every one thinks that Avacyn will be in this set, but i don’t know. It seems from the previous FTV’s that wizards is about to surprise magic players. Plus they don’t need to be giving all of their good angels away with this set so figure one normaly expensive angel with really cool foily alternate art which would still be worth it in my eyes.

    • Im hoping to see angels of all mana here, not just white…. that would be racist.

  • i know its probably not going to happen but im hoping for a alt art aurelia i mean itd be sexy and having that as my commander would be amazing

  • Goodguy porn ad

    google FTV angels….enjoy

    • mrwes

      I KNOW!!! And I was my mom’s laptop too X(

  • controlislife

    Why would you tell ssomeone to do that its a terrible idea

  • Andy Dondes

    This is what i think there will be
    Fallen Angel
    Akroma (White one)
    Baneslayer Angel
    Iona
    Linvala
    Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    Archangel of Thune
    Serra Angel
    Crypt Angel
    Sigarda
    Bruna
    Gabriel Angelfire
    Maelstrom Archangel
    Platinum Angel
    Restoration Angel

    • Antares

      Take otu Serra Angel (NO uncommons!) for Aurelia, and Gabriel Angelfire for Razia. I’d be happy with the list if those 2 changes happen. Though I’d rather have one of the B/W Orzhov angels (either Angel of Despair or Deathpatch Angel) in exchange for one of the Mono-B Angels.

      • Hans Giesfeldt

        serra angel was a rare originally, and is a classic. she’ll probably be in there (and i’d love to see a foil version of the original art)

        • Fabian Domke

          Nope, Serra was an Uncommen, first Change in 7th Edition to Rare, later (after 10th Edition) back to Uncommen.

      • El Weirdo

        What do you mean no uncommons they do lots of common and uncommon cards within the FTV sets?

    • Iona for maelstrom angel or voice of all. Iona will probably see print in MM15

  • David Fitzsimmons

    Honestly most of these are going to be common sense like the Dragons set. If this set lacks any of the Akromas then WotC is clearly just way out of their way to ‘SURPRISE’ everyone. Iona, Akroma, Platinum, Linvala are definitely big iconic angels that need to be in here.

    • Antares

      I’d think Avacyn has to be in here. Linvala might be in, but it might go into MM15.

      I’d think that we are likely to see:
      – Sigarda (only recent G/W angel, liked for commander)

      – Red Akroma (Angel of Wrath, right?)
      – a mono-black or W/B angel
      – a U/W angel, likely Bruna
      – Avacyn (most recognizable angel in recent memory).
      – An artifact angel (likely Filigree Angel or Platinum Angel)

      If we get Sigarda, Bruna, and Avacyn (which I think is very likely), then Gisela would go in. Personally, I’d also like to see Iona, Linvala, and Aurelia (maybe Razia).

      • mrwes

        If they choose Avacyn, it had better be the Angel of Hope version (the best version).

        • Kasigah

          Shall I pick Avacyn, Angel of Immortality, or Avacyn, Eight-And-A-Half-Wings?

        • Happy The Cat

          why not both?

      • OrphanSlayer

        They never put full cycles in. Annihilation only got one decree, Dragons only had 1 Kamigawa dargon and 1 shard dragon, etc.

        • Antares

          I can dream, right?

          I believe that G/W will be Sigarda, as the only other Selesnya angel is Gabriel Angelfire. . . which almost nobody knows/cares about. U/W could be any of a bunch of angels, but the only truly recognizable (and recent ones) have been Bruna and Filigree Angel. I’d expect to see one of them in here.

          My guess is we will see all colors represented, an artifact angel, angels with more unique abilities, or angels with illustrious history in constructed.

          PS. Do you mean of the Dragon Primevals?

          • OrphanSlayer

            The Primevals, as well as the alternate Primevals.

  • JangFu

    Would love to see a redone Exalted Angel, was my favorite one

  • Ryx

    For some reason I think they are going to print Serra Angel in this, I don’t know why?

    • Noatzon

      Iconic Angel? One of the first one to ever be printed and similar reasons but i do think your correct C:

    • KaminaSquirtleSquad

      Serra angel is like a 99% chance. Everyone I talked to mentioned Serra Angel immediately.

    • Prinny

      Serra Angel was iconic and incredibly powerful for a long time way back when. It pales in comparison nowadays but when you Wrath and dropped Serra Angel, the opponent would be put on a clock.

  • lonewolf

    oh I actually wish they wouldn’t reprint ANY recent angel (latest should be from around mirrodin at best since kamigawa didn’t had any angels)

    • Killjoy

      Thanks satan :)

    • Happy The Cat

      I see avenger and iona being two likely to happen of the new ones

  • LeonFA

    Wanted to add something the the Iona vs Linvala topic. I think Iona will be in this set and Linvala will be in MM15. They built the first Modern Masters to have a unique draft environment, and Iona is a 9 drop, and 9 drops generally perform poorly in draft no matter how strong they are (Rise of the Dark Realms, In Garruk’s Wake, etc).

    • KaminaSquirtleSquad

      Definitely a possibility. I’d like a foil linvala more than a foil iona though.

  • Happy The Cat

    I kinda want four Baneslayers
    all with different art
    and foiled
    and signed by the artists

  • Amon_The_Oracle

    Calling it. Serra angel is the picture that has been released so far.

    • maybe blinding angel? wait this ones strait up blind … never mind

    • KaminaSquirtleSquad

      It’s more than likely twilight shepard

    • Bob the Builder

      The picture is NOT serra angel, but serra angel will be in the set

  • Ryx

    Random question, has their ever been a blue or green angel? I know their are black angels and the R/W Boros angels but have they been in the other colors?

    • ThopterTribal

      Illusionary Angel for blue, and Sigarda, Host of Herons is a G/W angel. There is also a Bant Angel, though I forgot its name.

      • BobTheTitan

        bant is bruna

        • Jinxy0396

          No Bruna is BW, Stoic Angel is bant

          • Pythonvalle

            Bruna is UW

          • Lone Wolf 1123

            what’s her face the +1/+1 counter angel for 3 is also bant, there are a bunch of multi colored angels, issue is they are almost all white, the only really good non-white angels are red akroma and platinum angel

          • Brandon

            Jenara, Asura of War

      • KaminaSquirtleSquad

        Green white: Sigarda, Gabriel Angelfire; Blue White: Bruna, Filgree Angel, Guiding Spirit, Iridescent Angel; Bant: Jenera, Stoic Angel, Empyrial Archangel; URW: Lightning Angel; Blue: Illusory** Angel, not illusionary. There’s also maelstrom archangel which is the only five colour angel to date.

        • Ryx

          thank you.

      • TJ

        There was stoic angel and empyrial archangel

  • Elspeth, angel of two red hot pokers!

  • Lone Wolf 1123

    possibly gisela, or maybe twilight shephard, not really sure about the significance of the hood though

  • Lone Wolf 1123

    Admonition Angel
    Akroma (red one)
    Angel of Despair/Deathpact Angel
    Archangel of Thune/Sublime Archangel
    Aurelia/Razia/Basandra
    2 of Avacyn (the good one)/Iona/Linvala
    Bruna/Sigarda
    Crypt Angel/Fallen Angel
    Filigree Angel/Indomitable Archangel
    Gisela (preview art)
    Jenara/Stoic Angel
    Maestrom Archangel
    Platinum Angel
    Tariel

    • Daniel Henderson

      I Agree, probably gonna buy this, which is not something i usually say for FTV

    • Lone Wolf 1123

      one thing that occured to me about this list is that i forgot to include baneslayer, i would expect it over sublime/thune or tariel, although i would really like to see a tariel reprint

  • Cynic4life

    Serra Angel
    Angel of Glory’s Rise
    Archangel
    Herald of War
    Seraph
    Crypt Angel
    Akroma, Angel of Fury
    Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    Warrior Angel
    Guiding Spirit
    Gabriel Angelfire
    Jenara, Asura of War
    Selenia, Dark Angel
    Victory’s Herald
    Sustaining Spirit

    • Rustus

      gods I would love this, but Selenia is on the Reserve list.

  • Blah

    C,mon… Radinat Reprint!

  • M 2 M

    it’s baneslayer Angel, Aka babeslayer.now im gonna call it.

  • Angels4life

    YESSSS!!! Finally! angels are my favorite of all creatures! Anybody want an angel planeswalker?

    • BlitzAngel

      Hells yes, they should have made one for Inistrad. This needs to happen.

      • tocoman

        angels and demons cant become planeswalkers because the dont have a sole the are crated by other creatures and/or plansewalkers they are more like golams hens why when obneixless lost his spark when he became a demon and karn was given a spark by 2 planeswalkes

        • kasigah

          My understanding is that he lost his spark not because he became a demon, but because Zendikar ripped it from him.

    • dargenom

      Unfortunately, angels are incapable of becoming planeswalkers. It broke my heart when I read it in the lore.

      • Toorlokviing

        thats not true serra was a planeswalker back in the artifacts cycle block with ursa book 2 planeswalker. she is the only angel known in lore to be a planeswalker angel but she is not a planewalker anymore as she could not sustain her angel made realm and it fell to yawgmoths/phyrexian forces later. no one knows what happened to her after that. not sure if shes dead but she is printed as that uncommon angel now. if those are in fact the same angel.

        • Netwing

          Serra Was not a Planeswalker she created the Serra Angels out of Pure mana because she did not like destroying Life. She Married Feroz and Lived on the Homelands till Feroz Died and she later went to the Legends world and was killed by a Planeswalker and Angus Mekenzie built the Cathedreal of Serra in her Honor.

          • Netwing

            I meant was not an Angel but a Planeswalker hehe Opps

    • Jace Beleren

      No. I’d rather a karn liberated reprint. Or 20 more ugins. Or possibly a mind sculptor.

  • Lone Wolf 1123

    to all those saying they think this is baneslayer – while she was the most played angel in several years, for as long as i’ve been playing this game actually, and she will likely see a reprint in this, quite possible with new art, i doubt that this is her, this card looks no more like the old baneslayer than it does like many other angels, personally i think this is twilight shepherd, notice both the hood and the time of day, or rather night

    • Kristopher Sicari

      Maybe, but four wings vs two?

      • Lone Wolf 1123

        i would agree with you if she was legendary, but she isn’t which means there are multiple, and some probably have some different characteristics, i’m not saying i’m certain but i feel like the most significant part of the art is the hood, and shepherd is the only angel i can remember wearing one

    • Khorne

      given the sword asplit in half I would vote for Adarkar Valkyrie

  • アダム マッド バン

    print a new art of the power puff girls…. Including Avacyin (indestructibility)

  • marco

    what if, like FTV Dragons and Leyends, this new FTV give us a new version of Iona or Linvala since they both are from Zendikar?

  • Lone Wolf 1123

    personally i hope they do a better job with the spindown this time than they have for the last two, i wasn’t a huge fan of the color scheme on the annihilation die, the base color was fine but it was hard to read and ugly with the printed color they used, and the ftv 20 die had guess what in place of the 20, A 20!

    • magicdai

      I love the ftv 20 spindown it was awesome, and the reason it was a 20 was because that was the ftv 20’s “set” mark

      • Lone Wolf 1123

        i know it was the set symbol, it was very disapointing

        • magicdai

          It was topical, they couldn’t have it as a 19 could they? :P

          • Jandro

            D20s should have a 20 on the top. It’s logic.

          • magicdai

            That’s true but where would you put the set icon? instead of the number 1?

  • Netwing

    This looks like twilight shepherd to me.

  • Dragonlord Oujitai wins!

    If Serra Angel isn’t in this, i’ll have a heart attack. That’s like not putting shivan dragon in FTV: Dragons, or, i don’t know, not putting an avacyn in FTV: Avacyn (if they made that)

    • Antares

      HOw about Avacyn in FTV: Angels? -_-

      Also, Serra Angel is not worth it. She’s an uncommon these days. It’s not much of a comparison to Shivan Dragon. The Dragon is still powerful enough to merit Rare in limited. Serra Angel not so much. In fact, I don’t think any of the old angels are strong enough to merit “Rare” status anymore.

      Frankly, I’d be completely happy with NOT Serra Angel.

      I’m still holding on to hope for Avacyn, Iona, and Linvala to all be here. I doubt it will happen, but you can dream, right?

      • @stormcrow

        But-but Serra Angel is the Storm Crow of Angels. FTVs are supposed to be about POWER.

        • Antares

          No. Emancipation Angel is the Storm Crow of angels. She’s just not very famous because the Storm Crow of Angels is still but a pale shade of the mighty Storm Crow.

      • tgbyhnujmikolp

        Firespout is an uncommon, and that got a print in FTV: Boardwipe. Wizards is most likely printing Serra Angel in this, just because of how iconic it is to the entire Angel tribe.

  • AK

    Placing bet on Adarkar Valkyrie…

  • @stormcrow

    Akroma reprint???

    • Antares

      I’m hoping for a reprint of Avacyn, Iona, and Linvala. Their price is in the “STUPID” range. Plus, that alone would make the set sell like hot cakes.

      • Lone Wolf 1123

        i feel like two of those 3 are likely but not all 3 and im not sure which would be in

        • @stormcrow

          I think all 3 will be reprinted, though if only 2 I’m expecting Avacyn and either Iona or Linvala.

  • UltraKilleR7

    This picture must be for baneslayer I think

    • kasigah

      Honestly, with the veil, I think it’s Twilight Shepherd.

      • Marlon Augusto

        Makes sense

  • bigfloppydonkeyd

    cannot be twilight Shepherd. Twilight Shepherd has 4 wings, not 2.

    • Antares

      Twilight Shepherd is the only angel with a veil. I think that’s why people are calling her as Twilight Shepherd.

    • Lone Wolf 1123

      if shepherd was legendary i might agree, but it is not meaning there are multiple, likely with some variation between them. i dont know about others but to me it feels like specific number of wings would vary from individual to individual, or maybe even indicate some type of race of angel, like hispanics vs. caucasians, but the veil is more of a symbol of station meaning that all twilight shepherds would have them

  • Alexander Laws

    The art makes me think Karmic Guide, but I see the Twilight Shepherd-ness because of the hood.

  • Liliana

    This isn’t a hood, it’s a veil.

  • Jacob Jones

    Since the From the Vault series tends to draw from cards that shaped the meta of their time, I would think this might be Blinding Angel. Two burning blades, one for each eye.

  • Robbie Mahoney

    I wont lie I would like to see something like this

    • matt

      only problem is he would die easily if it was 4 or 5 mana then it wouldn’t be a problem

      • matt

        loyalty not mana mb

    • rockseatcats

      this is an awful card

  • Tim Torn

    What non-creature card are they going to put in, like Dragonstorm for Dragons? Perhaps Angelic Destiny?

    • Bastion8889

      Angelic destiny, luminarch ascension, or akroma’s memorial. Those are the three most likely i can think of. Seraph’s sanctuary? Seems really lame if that was it tho.

  • Bastion8889

    I expect to see Iona or linvala reprinted in battle for zendikar or modern masters 2015 the one that is not in either of those sets will be in this set.

  • TJ

    One of the off cards, is hopefully entreat the Angels, devout invocation is ok, and decree of justice has been reprinted way to many time, also if the give it an enchantment, angelic destiny is about the only one that fits other than serra’s blessing.

  • Alexander Laws

    Just being chatty now, but would like to see something like:

    1 – Desolation Angel / Angel of Despair
    2 – Sigarda, Host of Herons
    3 – Lightning Angel
    4 – Platinum Angel
    5 – Tariel, Reckoner of Souls / Kaalia of the Vast
    6 – Karmic Guide
    7 – Twilight Shepherd
    8 – Akroma, Angel of Wrath / Akroma, Angel of Fury
    9 – Entreat the Angels
    10 – Angelic Destiny
    11 – Linvala, Keeper of Silence / Iona, Shield of Emeria
    12 – Restoration Angel
    13 – Serra Angel
    14 – Maelstrom Archangel / Luminarch Ascension
    15 – Radiant, Archangel

    • Kahai

      Finally a Lightning Angel fan! XD

      As much as i love my new modern bordered ones, i certainly wouldn’t mind a new art foil! :D

  • ManaTheDestroyer

    It’s actually kinda hard to narrow it down to just 15 honestly, I was able to do it but only barely

    Entreat the angels
    decree of justice
    Avacyn, angel of hope
    akroma, angel of wrath
    Twilight shepherd
    angel of the dire hour
    Baneslayer
    Luminarch Ascension
    Archangel of Thune
    Sublime Archangel
    Reya Dawnbringer
    Empyrial Archangel
    Gabriel Angelfire
    Jenara, asura of war
    a pre-prerelease angel from the upcoming Zendikar block (they did it with Mikaeus, the Lunarch in FtV: Legends)

  • Netwing

    If I was gonna take a guess here would be my list
    Serra Angel
    Entreat the Angels
    Angelic Destiny
    Iona or Avacyn Angel of hope
    Angel of Finality
    Bane Slayer
    Twilight Shepard
    Akroma Angel of Fury
    Platinum angel or Copperleaf angel
    Karmic guide
    Sublime Archangel
    Angel of Despair
    Admonition Angel
    Fallen angel or Crypt Angel
    and an angel from new set

  • TJ

    So here is my thougt about the 15 and reasoning behind them.

    1) Entreat the Angels – Decree of Justice has had to many reprints.
    2) Angelic Destiny – Serra’s embrace wouldn’t do for From the Vault justice.
    3) Serra – Is there a core set where she hasn’t been reprinted, and a time where she was never a white staple.
    4) Reya – The previous Dragos had 5 legends and Reya is second to only a few.
    5) Avacyn, Angel of Hope – Best angel ever.
    6) Angel of Despair – great card fo the mana, and many bw decks embrace at least one of her.
    7) Firemane Angel or avenger – who doesn’t love free life.
    8) Iona or Linvala – Linvala is next only to Avacyn, but who doesn’t like limiting their opponent color w/ Iona.
    9) Jenara – because +1/+1 counters are fun.
    10) Akroma, Angel of Wrath – kill, kill, kill.
    11) Radiant, Archangel – We haven;t seen her in so long.
    12) Platinum Angel – Who doesn’t like winning.
    13) Crypt Angel – pro-white on an angel, something hardly ever seen, but it does exist.
    14) Baneslayer Angel – bhind only a very exalted few angels
    15) Up coming angel – Dragon spoiled hellkite over lord and legends spoiled Mikaeus

    • Ryū

      I don’t think Serra will show up since she doesn’t even have a card. I hope you’re right about #15. I loved Iona and Linvala, so hopefully we get some more badass angels in BFZ.

      • TJ

        If you read the reasoning, it is clear that I am talking about serra angel, especially since she has been reprinted in nearly every set.

        • Ryū

          Whoops. I skimmed over and misread it.

          • TJ

            No, biggie, I have domes the same thing on other sites. Sorry for sounding snippy.

          • Ryū

            No problem.

  • Ryū

    Eh, I don’t think the art is of Twilight Shepherd. There are plenty of differences there. Twilight Shepherd had 4 wings, not 2, one large sword, not 2 smaller ones, only her eyes and forehead covered, and that art doesn’t give off a Shadowmoor feel at all. If anything, she looks like an Innistrad angel, but I suppose the lack of Avacyn’s crest is a strike against that.

  • TJ

    Sorry guys, forgot about the art. Does look like a twilight shepherd, so slash put that as an option next to radiant. Unless they completely revamp some serious art which they have been known to do, I think that is twilight, so we probable won’t see Radiant in this from the vault run.

  • Random MTG Player

    FTV packs are only reprints? cause im beginning to think that art is a new angel. it doesnt look like twilight sheperd to me, i would say it looks like Gisela ( since its the only fitting angel i saw with two swords) or Aurelia ( for her red eyes and rel gleaming swords) or even angelic overseer…but none fits quite right.

  • michael

    Aurelia
    Gisela
    Avacyn
    Iona
    Linvala
    Akroma A
    Akroma B
    Serra
    Elspeth returning as an angel
    Angel of dispair
    Reya
    Maelstrom
    Pristine
    Herald of war
    Tariel
    Thune

  • Joey Forman

    I don’t think the artwork is Twilight Shepherd, since she just got a reprint in the Anthologies set for the duel decks. It may not have been accessible by a lot of people because of cost but It did get a recent reprint. I really hope it’s either a new angel of Baneslayer.

  • TJ

    I seriously doubt they will reprint angels that have been released in multiplayer sets only such as Tauriel, but there is a minimal chance. The are work isn’t necessarily the new angel being released. The Announcement for dragons was while to art for the other sets weren’t. The creature based Vault runs have 14 reprints and one new creature in each set.
    All creature cards will have the card type angel, so much to my dismay and many others Kaalia won’t be getting a run here, and she is tied to three different creaure types, not just angels.
    As for the Duel Deck anthologies reprints, when the first four duel decks ran, they weren’t as popular or as widely advertised. The Anthologies was that chance for collector’s to get their hands on those particular decks without it costing nearly 100$ each. JvC and DvD were both almost 120 new in box each. If the art work is the new angel, I would like to see updated art for Radiant. Also, the dragon series only has 5 legends and I think they would be apt to keeping it that way, or they might as well call it Legendary Angels.
    I really think based on the artwork it is either twilight angel, or a new angel. Like I said, if it is twilight, I doubt we get Radiant, but if it isn’t twilight, I am really look foward to having a reprint and Radiant.

  • bellboa45

    How do I preorder this to pay the MSRP?

    • wop-wop

      The only way is to hope your LGS gets a shipment and they aren’t dicks. If they do and they aren’t and you get there early on release day and you know a guy that works there, then and only then will you pay msrp. If not you can expect to pay somewhere between $150 and $300 online.

      • TJ

        Not even the FTV 20 series which has Jace is going for much over 150. Prebuys right now are at 99, and once they hit the market, it may go down a little in price, however, it will really depend on the cards in the set.

        • wop-wop

          It all depends on demand, and we won’t know what that’ll be until we get spoilers. 20 wasn’t the best of the group. Release week there is always a jump up in price for a couple of weeks. Then, when the real demand starts to show, it’ll go up or go down. Exiled is at $220 right now then you work your way down to annihilation which is at $31, so there is your price range (Tcgplayer prices). Now… if they mess around and put a ridiculous up coming set spoiler card in there (like a serra planeswalker card for commander or conspiracy) then you can expect fan boys/girls to shit their collective pants and start throwing money… me included…

  • wop-wop

    Radiant is on the reserved list, so all these comments about her are a little more than optimistic. The rules for the reserve list no longer allow reprints of any type including premiums.

    • TJ

      Forgot about the Reserved list, guess that kills the Radiant Dream. However, with that being said, my list still lacks it 5th legendary, if Wizards sticks to the subtype format from when it released Dragons. However, it was still fun to dream of it, shortly, though it was to short.

  • wop-wop

    And I’ve seen a few comments about “new” angels being in here. It’s from the vault. It is reprints only. No new cards. Five of them will have new art, but they are reprints.

    • TJ

      hellkite overlord and Mikaeus the lunarch were both from the Vault cards that weren;t released into sets until AFTER they had been run in the From the Vault set. So going back to the creatures based from the vaults, and there have been only 2, it is a great chance that there will be an Angel in the set that has not been seen yet.

      • wop-wop

        Possible, but I wouldn’t say it is probable. Dragons and legends were a long time ago.

        • TJ

          There is a third I forgot about with sword of body and mind in relics. I would say there is a pretty good chance. It would make it half of the vaults have had preview cards. However, we won’t know until sometime in July, so let’s just dream until them.

          • n0t_d34d_y3t

            I know that Duneblast from Khans was *supposed* to be in FTV: Annihilation but wasn’t included in the final product for whatever reason. That doesn’t necessarily mean that there’ll be a new angel in FTV: Angels, but I’d be surprised to learn that Wizards isn’t going to try to have one in there.

  • Billyman

    I get a Voice of All feel from the spoiled art tbh

  • Legendary_Hero7

    Predictions / Hopes:
    1. Akroma, Angel of Fury
    2. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls
    3. Sublime Archangel
    4. Baneslayer Angel
    5. Maelstrom Archangel
    6. Twilight Shepherd
    7. Voice of All
    8. Angel of Despair
    9. Firemane Angel
    10. Iridescent Angel
    11. Seraph Sanctuary
    12. Crypt Angel
    13. Shepherd of the Lost
    14. Emancipation Angel
    15. A new angel from the upcoming set of Battle for Zendikar. Maybe a new Iona?

    • Nick Hannah

      I would rather have Basandra than fire mane angel. I also think that the art spoiled above is the shepherd of the lost. Cool prediction.

  • Yasreal

    1. Akroma, Angel of Wrath – unique art work
    2. Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    3. Maelstrom Archangel
    4. Baneslayer Angel
    5. Reya Dawnbringer
    6. Platinum Angel
    7. Twilight Shepherd
    8. Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
    9. Serra Ascendant
    10. Admonition Angel
    11. Angel of the Dire Hour
    12.Aurelia, War Leader
    13. Seraph Sanctuary
    14.Crypt Angel
    15. Iona, Shield of Emeria

    • Thatoneplaneswalker

      Serra ascendant is a monk

    • kaalia’s buddy

      theres too many legendarys for that to be even remotely close but god I hope you’re right lol

    • Nanya

      Iona won’t be in there, due to Modern Masters, probably replace Iona with Avacyn, Angel of Hope

  • Meh…

    Seraph of the Sword… Is the angel in the art.

    • Lym

      Thats Twilight Shepherd, and her signature veil.

  • Garrison Tran

    no card spoilers?

  • Necrachilles

    01. Serra Angel
    02. Angel of Light
    03. Herald of War (New Art Above)
    04. Archangel
    05. Copper-Leaf Angel
    06. Starlit Angel
    07. Aegis Angel
    08. Guardian of the Gateless
    09. Seraph
    10. Angelic Curator
    11. Melesse Spirit
    12. Angel of Finality
    13. Glimmering Angel
    14. Angel of Retribution
    15. Amoeboid Changeling

    • Mtg player guy dude

      This list is so bad its probably true lol… god I hope not.

      • Necrachilles

        Exactly.

    • Abyss King

      AMOEBOID CHANGELING!!!!!

      • Necrachilles

        You better believe it. Probably new art too.

  • Josh Kaufman

    Look, they make these things overpriced and low value. And as a person who could care less about 100 card singleton,

    All I would want from this is Baneslayer Angel and Entreat the Angels. Also Avacyn would be nice to lower the price. Otherwise this seems like a dud.

    • Meh

      Spot on.

  • Cujucuyo

    We can only hope, the commander reprint is cheap but the foil isn’t, so here’s to cheap foils!

  • The 2kman

    Deathpact Angel?

  • Moxie Cooper

    IDC what is in this Angels are my favorite type, this will be the first FTV I buy and I am getting 4.

  • RedPandaRevolution

    Well, definitely no Iona with the MM2 spoiler.

    • Alexander Laws

      Maybe Linvala, then.

    • Ralph

      don’t give up hope. it might be one of the alternative arts

    • Bostorket

      Remember when Mikaeus, the Lunarch was in From the Vault: Legends? And that that particular FtV came out *before* Innistrad?

      My point is, they’ve already bent time and space once in order to put a card from the future into a collector’s set that’s (ostensibly) comprised of noteworthy cards from days gone by. So there’s already precedence set that proximity of a card’s (re)printing isn’t necessarily a factor.

    • TJ

      They will not three reprints of the cards at the same time let alone two reprints that are printed in different forums. Say they reprint cards in commander and put those into a from the vault. It is unlikely with MM2015 we will see Iona in FTVA, however, if they recast her in a different Iona, it is possible she may be in the FTV and MM2015. Like the changing of Sarkhan in DOT. Hope is not lost, but with that said, picking her uyp in a few MM booster would be killer, though I could really use more copies of Linvala for my 4 commander decks.

  • pain42

    If I had to take a guess….
    1. Akroma, Angel of Wrath
    2. Entreat the Angels
    3. Luminarch Ascension
    4. Admonition Angel
    5. Serra Angel
    6. Twilight Shepherd
    7. Gisela/Siguarda/Bruna
    8. Angel of Serenity
    9. Angel of Despair
    10. Avacyn, Angel of Hope
    11. Angel’s Grace
    12. Angelic Destiny
    13. Angelic Arbiter
    14. Aurelia
    15. Tariel

  • Ryan2309

    its going to cost 35 bucks wow

  • Pixi-Rex

    If it going to cost 35-40 there can’t be that much value in it.

    I guess

    1. Akroma, Angel of Wrath (The card new players wants)
    2. Angel of Despair (That must be the image above)
    3. Angel of Serenity (medium value)
    4. Aurelia, the Warleader (medium value and players love it)
    5. Avacyn, Angel of Hope (the chase card)
    6. Battlegrace Angel (Because it only has one print. can be any ohter card)
    7. Exalted Angel (Good card at its time)
    8. Maelstrom Archangel (need that angle with all colors right)
    9. Platinum Angel (It must be there)
    10. Restoration Angel (had such a big impact when it was in standard)
    11. Serra Angel (Will be there for sure and with new beautiful picture)
    12. Sigarda, Host of Herons (believe most at her, of the three Innistrad angels)
    13. Entreat the Angels (most likely it makes angels)
    14. Angelic Accord (makes angels)
    15. Angelic Page (fill and has the least CMC of all angle creatures)

    believe it is reasonable pool.

    Cards that we love to see

    Archangel of Thune
    Baneslayer Angel
    Linvala, Keeper of Silence

    • Thatoneplaneswalker

      Hahahahahaha. Ftv sets sell for 150-200 now. Of course they’re valuable!!!

      • Necrachilles

        Except Annihilation.

  • Antares

    So having seen the Modern Masters spoiler, I have revised my ideas for what I want and what I think we will get.

    Most likely in:
    Angels that showcase the variety of the type through magic.

    1) An artifact angel: The most sensible and recognizable one is Platinum Angel. Another possibility is Filigree Angel. They may also include Indomitable Archangel as a “plays nice with artifacts: angel.

    2) Angels in multiple colors.
    a) Green angel: The are no mono-G angels. The two W/G ones are Gabriel Angelfire and Sigarda, Host of Herons. I am hoping for the latter.

    b) Blue Angel: Bruna is the most recent. Illusory angel is Mono-U, but there are several in U/W. The most recent and recognizable being Bruna, Light of Alabaster.
    c) Red Angel: Akroma is Mono-R. I would more likely expect every angel to have W. So Basandra, or one of the Boros angels. My hope would be Aurelia, the Warleader. Razia is probaly more likely, though.

    d) Black Angel: There are a ton of options here, even multiple Mono-B options. No clue what they’d go for.

    6) The most recognizable angel: Serra Angel. Much as it hurts, she’ll likely be in purely because she is so iconic. Her art better be freakin’ amazing. The only way she may be skipped is if she gets a (final?) printing in Magic Origins.

    7) The only 5 color angel: Empyrian Angel. Similar to how FtV Dragons had the only 5 color dragon.

    8) An angel in high demand for Commander: Jenara, Asura of War. One of the best aggro commanders, with significant demand (especially with the addition of Tiny Leaders. It’d be a huge shame/missed opportunity NOT to include her.

    9) The angel with the highest combined Power and Toughness: Avacyn, Angel of Hope. She is also in high demand and worth a LOT of money.

    10) The angel in the spoiled image: There are two possibilities: It is Twilight Shepherd (only veiled angel), or a new card from a coming set. My money is on Twilight Shepherd.
    11) A preview card: Every FtV has contained a single preview card. My money is that the spoiled image is NOT the preview card.

    12) Angelic Destiny: Similar to Form of the Dragon. The idea of ascending to an angel seems like they’d play it up, since it happened before for dragons.

    13) The most expensive angel to cast: This is a tie between Reya Dawnbringer and Iona, Shield of Emeria. As Iona is getting reprinted in MM15, my money is on Reya.

    14) The cheapest angel to cast: There are several 2 mana angels, but the only one that is (sometimes) played and recognizable is Serra Avenger. I also really like the card, so I’d hope for her to be in.

    15)?????

    The last one is up in the air. I would hope for Linvala, Keeper of Silence. That would make her more accessible.

    • TJ

      Time Spiral actually had the five colored dragon with FTV as a reprint. The only five colored angel in Maelstrom Archangel from Conlux. And no, not all FTV had preview cards. Exiled didn’t and neither did 20 or a few of the other ones. Now, both creature based sets have in fact had “preview” cards and that announcement photo in the initial arcana announcement had been that preview card. Is is really up in the air as to which angels it is, but I posted this last month on the speculation and why.

      So here is my thought about the 15 and reasoning behind them.

      1) Entreat the Angels – Decree of Justice has had to many reprints.
      2) Angelic Destiny – Serra’s embrace wouldn’t do for From the Vault justice.
      3) Serra – Is there a core set where she hasn’t been reprinted, and a time where she was never a white staple.
      4) Reya – The previous Dragos had 5 legends and Reya is second to only a few.
      5) Avacyn, Angel of Hope – Best angel ever.
      6) Angel of Despair – great card fo the mana, and many bw decks embrace at least one of her.
      7) Firemane Angel or avenger – who doesn’t love free life.
      8) Iona or Linvala – Linvala is next only to Avacyn, but who doesn’t like limiting their opponent color w/ Iona. Iona being in mm2015 I don’t believe she will be in this limited run
      9) Jenara – because +1/+1 counters are fun.
      10) Akroma, Angel of Wrath – kill, kill, kill.
      11) Radiant, Archangel – We haven;t seen her in so long. Forgot she is on the Reserved list, look for either Admontion Angel maybe Either Sigarda or Gisela, or maybe even Aurelia.
      12) Platinum Angel – Who doesn’t like winning.
      13) Crypt Angel – pro-white on an angel, something hardly ever seen, but it does exist.
      14) Baneslayer Angel – bhind only a very exalted few angels
      15) Up coming angel – Dragon spoiled hellkite over lord and legends spoiled Mikaeus

      • SmartFish

        You obviously don’t know which angel is the best angel ever.

        • TJ

          Not by your standards, but let’s be honest, best cards with the exception of a few is all subjective. What other cards can make all your permanents board wipe proof? Avacyn in play, the only option are to bounce and exile. Iona and Linvala are great options. Reya is another great option. Basing it off of dragons, I do forsee much of this list being acurate. However, as I pointed out to someone else, ultimately nothing is set in stone for us until the spoilers are released, in the mean time, have fun predicting and lets not get bent out of shape over something we don’t know for sure.

          With that said, which angel do you believe is best? Always interested in hearing what other have to say about their favorites and why.

          • Alexander Laws

            In terms of angels… Iona, not even close. Avacyn may be good at protecting your stuff, but when the criteria is simply power, a card that says “oh, I’m sorry opponent(s), but you won’t be playing today,” is, in most cases, the most powerful.

            However, I’m more of a guy who likes flashy yet “fair” things, so Magister of Worth is my favorite.

          • TJ

            Thing is unless you put two of them on the field most control decks run one of two colors and she is very seseptuable to removal. While she is great in monocolor play, multi color seems to bite her. She is fun and I would like to have one, but haven;t been able to get her yet. If you pay Commander (EDH) magister of worth is fun with Avacyn in play and Reya, either way they vote you still come out ahead. Still a lot of fun either way.

    • TJ

      Sorry Scion of the Ur-Dragon didn’t get the FTV reprint in any of them so far.

  • TJ

    Guys, all the FTV sets, with the exception of FTV 20 have all msrp’d out at 34.99. However, the shops that get them, don;t always believe in selling at msrp. Take the commander arsenal. The weekend it hit shelves they were already 250-300 dollars. Supply and demand, they have supply so they can demand. Always will be that way. Now, if they allowed target, walmart and other like store to carry FTV we could actually see msrp sets in this area. Until then none of these sets with the exception of annihilation will ever go for msrp.

  • TJ

    Also, I don’t get the impression that they are releasing any cards that have been printed exclusively into the multi-player special releases such as commander, unless it is going to be a preview card.

  • Necrachilles

    What if the Angel in the art is the new Elspeth variant? They left her fate undecided and it wouldn’t be the first time they spoiled a card before the set it’s actually in was released. Highly improbable, yes. But one can dream.

    • OrphanSlayer

      Angels can’t hold planeswalker sparks, that’s part of their lore.

      • Necrachilles

        Actually I was thinking more along the lines of Elspeth getting a downgrade from Planeswalker and just being a legendary Angel creature.

        • Vegard Kivle

          She does kinda look like Elspeth. And she might get downgraded as you say. (Xenagos went from Planeswalker to God). But it might be a new art for some angel spawning sorcery.

          • Necrachilles

            True. I mean, the chances of it being her are practically nonexistent. They left her lore open for a return. Though good chances she’s dead and/or a returned. But I could see Erebos bringing her back as a returned angel to lead his armies against Heliod (the one responsible for his exile to the Underworld). Plus, Erebos strikes me as the type of guy to take “Heliod’s Champion” and turn her against him in some form. We’ve already seen Elspeth’s sword turned into a mask. I’m kind of excited to see if something happens with her spark and Daxos gets it as she traded her life for his.

            All that being said and the point of it all: We’re still a long ways off, lore wise, from finding out what happens there, so it’s highly unlikely they’d print a new Elspeth variant (current lore) that soon before the set it was actually going to be in.

          • Necrachilles

            The mask as seen in one of the trailers:

          • Netwing

            Actually in the lore Gods and PW were fairly Par. They didn’t really fear PW’s except that Elspeth had a God slaying sword so Heliod did fear her. Not sure becoming a God Is a Down Grade I mean Xenegos WANTED to become one so I am not thinking he would have opted for less power.

          • Kameenook

            This has got to be Seraph of the Sword.

  • niz-mizzet

    you know what I just realized there have never been male angels or female demons in mtg look it up I swear to god

    • Taxle

      very interesting. out of my head i only knew 1 angel that is male and not a single demon that is female. i looked it up now, there is only one demon that is clearly female (the monster like ones i dont count. no way to tell what they are if there is no gender article in a different language) and that is Lady Orca. Male angels are Tariel, Reckoner of souls, Melesse Spirit, Malach of the Dawn (the one i knew it was male) and Guardien Seraph (not 100% sure). But i think its very cool that they are mainly one gender. It Helps the contrast of Black/White, Evil/Good and now Male/Female. But i wouldnt mind to see a female demon for once pop up. like a sukkubi or something, that would be neat!

    • Ari Woolf-Manas

      The Archangel from Visions is male. Malach of Dawn is Male. Gabriel Angelfire. Glimmering Angel. Not that many, but there are some.

      • AlaAlba

        Those three examples have been pointed out by many many people on Mark Rosewater’s blog. Gabriel is male, and was a story character, so won’t be getting female art, but was errata’d to be an Angel. Malach was a ‘what if,’ and the art director for Visions was notorious for missing mistakes in the art. Glimmering Angel is ambiguous. Officially, and going forward, all Angels in Magic are female.

    • Angels

      The only male represented angel is Malach of the Dawn, this is due to ‘what if’ and chaotic themes of planar chaos. Gabriel Angelfire is the most ambiguous, but never had angel printed on the card, if SHE is reprinted in FTV I expect new female art.

      There are a few with average art but are clearly represented as female when you look closely at their clothing/armor/chest.

      Perhaps Glimmering angel is not female, but not male either, doesn’t have legs or a face, perhaps should be and Angel Illusion or Elemental

      • niz-mizzet

        now that I think about it gabriel angel fire did look asexual

      • AlaAlba

        Those examples have been pointed out by many many people on Mark Rosewater’s blog. Gabriel is male, and was a story character, so won’t be getting female art, but was errata’d to be an Angel. Malach was indeed a ‘what if,’ t Glimmering angel is ambiguos and the art director for Visions (Archangel) was notorious for missing mistakes in the art. Officially, and going forward, all Angels in Magic are female.

    • TOOMMMY

      What is with Thariel, Reckoner of Souls?

      • AlaAlba

        Tariel is female.

      • Kameenook

        Tariel is a sick EDH mardu commander, that’s what.

    • Malach of the Dawn for a male angel, and although we haven’t been there yet Xathrid on Chandalar as a female demon.

      • Dont forget M10 Guardian Seraph

      • niz-mizzet

        I googled kothophed and in apparently its a he and people told me about malach and xathrid demon looks like dude and I didn’t know about guardian seraph

    • Kothophed is a female demon.

      • Kameenook

        More like Kothodead, amirite?

  • Angels

    We are not getting anything more than $40

    My realistic list.
    note: Radiant removed due to being on Reserved List

    FEATURED:
    1. Twilight Shepherd (Pictured Art)
    2. New Zendikar Angel – Possibly a Different Linvala legend (This is august and zendikar is october)
    LEGENDS:
    3. Gabriel Angelfire (New Art)
    4. Selena, Dark Angel (New Art)
    5. Razia, Boros Archangel (Old Art)
    NON-CREATURES:
    6. Entreat the Angels (Old Art) /or/ Devout Invocation (New Art)
    7. Angelic Destiny (Old Art) /or/ Akroma’s Memorial (New Art)
    GOOD ANGELS:
    8. Desolation Angel (Old Art)
    9. Resolute Archangel (m15 set art)
    10. Angel of Serenity (New Art) (Most Playable)
    11. Pristine Angel (Old Art)
    ICONIC/OBSCURE ANGELS:
    12. Serra Angel (Hoping for Guay Art)
    13. Serra Advocate (7th Art) (I am expecting 1 uncommon – could be Voice of Law/Grace/All)
    14. Blinding Angel (Old Art)
    15. WILD CARD ENTRY

    as for #15 Karmic Guide / Restoration Angel Possible but already have foil promos – Battlegrace, Exalted, Aegis are decent but not iconic enough, I feel Fallen angel and Avenging Angel are quite iconic or Copperleaf/Platnum for something different.

    I think this will keep angel fans happy, some you couldn’t previously get in foil, I think even entreat the angels is a bit hopeful, angelic destiny and angel of serenity make up the good cards and the rest are average but playable.

    The only blue one I see is iridescent angel from odyssey which would take pristine angel’s place. But i don’t think we need a blue one.

    • TJ

      As someone pointed out to me, Radiamt is on the reserved list, so much to my dismay and many others, she will not get a reprint here, unless they use something to to remove her from the reserved list. FTV20 msrp’d out at 39.99 and included a 100$ planeswalker. Wizards doesn’t really care about the secondary market because they sell everything sealed to the dealers who then enact the price changes we see as players looking for cards. It didn’t cost any more for them to print an Ojutai than a land. Player willing to pay 32 for Ojutai is why the price went so high. It is possible to see expensive cards in these sets, such as realms, exiled and relics. I pointed out to someone else that with the exception of FTV20 ALL FTV sets have msrp’d out @34.99

      • Angels

        Yeah I get this, every FTV (FTV20 had a little more) i can remember had about $150 value of cards in them on release and went up or down after. (That is FTV singles price, not original Printing Price) There is usually 1 card everyone would want to try sell the thing, but most are more obscure, I think the selling point of this will be the preview angel.
        If Linvala/Avacyn/Iona/Sigarda/Gisella/Aurelia are in this it will create major demand problems worldwide.

        My choices we mostly based on the quality/value of the FTV dragons cards.

        • niz-mizzet

          I hope gabriel angelfire isn’t reprinted that is a terrible card

          • Kevan Kramer

            Gabriel work make a fun commander in EDH

        • TJ

          Wizards won’t have demand issues as they simply only offer ftv to certain game stores which meet certain criteria. There is always a demand issue with the ftv except so far with annihilation. The weekend dragons hit the shelf, it was 80. Legends 85, 20 was preselling at nearly 200. Also, when dragons was released, many of the current amazing dragons today weren’t in print. I see a FTV Dragons 2 in the future. I do see many of the recent great angels in this set. Not all, but many.

        • Kameenook

          Given that this is probably Seraph of the Swords, if the preview card is the selling point, we’re in big trouble.

    • What’s the Guay art for Serra Angel?

      • Angels

        Rebecca Guay, one of the most recognizable magic artists. She did art for serra angel, but it was never used except on an oversize promo. Google it

    • Somnom

      No man, we have to get a foil modern border of Gabriel Angelfire with the OLD art!

  • Arcus Diabolus

    Please just have some cool stuff for my W/G Angel modern. Linvala, Gisela or Avacyn, Angel of Hope are all welcome. (That includes Iona, but I doubt she will be here since she’s in Modern Masters now.)

    • Kameenook

      All of those seem very plausible (I agree with no Iona) but the question is will they reprint the most iconic angel of them all? Some sick new art on Serra Angel would nostalgia for days.

      • BobTheTitan

        linvala doesnt seem too plausible… its a pretty expensive card

        • BobTheTitan

          just kidding the price is not that bad… plausible

        • Kameenook

          These FTV sets are usually full of some somewhat expensive cards. They printed JTMS in one of them for crying out loud.

  • VeiDoSaco

    When do they start giving spoilers ? mid june?

    • Toorlokviing

      prolly not till mid july or early august

    • TJ

      They will do a full release just a few weeks before the release, they won’t do spoilers like they do with large sets. Normally it is only a one or two day “spoiler”.

  • GiantKittyKat

    More foils for my Angel deck, Mahahaha. Might as well foil the whole thing and win by blinding my opponent with the glare. lol

    I’m hope that most of the cards have new art or at least the older art.

    • TJ

      Only five of the cards will have new art. The other ten will have artwork that has already been printed.

  • Kameenook

    I’m guessing that’s a seraph of the sword, but that’s not what I came here for. AVACYN! AVACYN! AVACYN! AVACYN! AVACYN! AVACYN!

  • Robbie Mahoney

    That is not Avacyn and that is not seraph of the sword she dont have a sheen or glowing eyes

  • Daniel

    Its NEW art for a reason. Lets look at thw two luminous angels for example. Yeah they look exactly the same. The only veiled angel we have is the Twilight Shepard so thats my vote.

    • TJ

      There aren’t a lot of similarities between mirrodin luminous angel and divine art, the armor on the forearms is actually about the most similar things in those two pieces of art and they are not at all anywhere close to a resemblance of each other. The wings and even clothing are completely different. It would be interesting to see if the played luminous angel as being a light in darkness, which is suited for the picture. Also, with the news that Serra Angel is in origins, I think it is unlikely we will see her here.

  • David Le

    Obviously this is Twilight Shepherd… She’s the only angel with a veil, the sword is of similar design, and there’s a moon in the background, enough said.

    • TJ

      Could also be, baneslayer as she is pictured in darkness though her sword is a little long. Seraph of the sword has a sword design quite similar in stature. With that being said, if they release a BFZ angel in here, I am willing to be that is where the art work belongs. In each of the FTV announcements where they have spoiled a card, the announcement art has been that card.

      • The last line is not true, FtV: Relics preview art was Nevinyrral’s Disk.

        • TJ

          Yeah, sorry about that. With everything and all announcements, it does appear that in sets in which they previewed a card, it was stated in the announcement.

    • TJ

      Also, twilight shepherd had two pairs of wings instead of one.

    • i don’t understand how anyone can think differently but there are a ton of comments thinking its something else.

    • michael ciriaco

      swords are to thin

    • David Le

      Like it’s all speculation until official spoilers are released, so I may be right, I may be wrong, but that’s all in the spirit of gossip.

    • Ra

      Did anyone suggest that it might be herald of war? 2 swords, 1 set of wings, and the background looks darker as if it were night. but ik thats a leap cuz of how different the clothing is.

    • Ra

      also i just realized, this says new art not alternative. so based on that it could even just be an akroma art. just based of the clothing.

  • Pej Pej

    Obviously, it’s an angel.

  • duke

    I rue the day that these angels fall into the clutches of my enemies at the kitchen table.

  • Somnom

    Maybe, just maybe, you’re all wrong and this is the artwork for the preview from the next set.

    • TJ

      I really don’t see the resemblance with the previous twilight shepherd. I agree that it could, in fact be a preview card, or a few other significant, or not so significant angels from the past. Just two more months before they hit, and about 4-6 weeks before we find out the contents.

      • Vizzerdrix

        im really thinking twilight shepard. it just feels right to me, im hoping not though bc i dont really care for twilight shepard

      • Talamar

        Did New Akroma from Angels Vs Demons look anything like the old one… Nope but still seems like this might be a diff Take on that Angel but could also be diff take on Any angel. Just only been one angel with a veil. Even Both the Reyas not really look alike.. Just my 2 cents.

    • They would’ve said that there is a preview card in this in the announcement Arcana.

      • Somnom

        Maybe, just maybe, this artwork won’t be in this set at all! It’s all just one big psyche out.

  • chaos

    the art remembers me of gisela, blade of the goldnight with the 2 swords and te red and white wings

    • Jonathan Mueller

      True, but why she hide her face with that cloth?
      The shrouded face seems to omnious to depict any legendary angel.

      As others have said, Twilight Shepherd seems the most likely as that angel was veiled as well.
      Although it’s strange to put focus on flaming swords and an armor then…. then again, Twilight Shepherd is a 5/5…

  • TJ

    The wing coloring is actually pretty close to seraph of the sword as well. The top of her wing are white, and in the dark we can’t see the full actual color of the bottom portion, they are dark underneath in the m14 Art. Could just be a shadow though.

  • Joshua Hicks

    Blinding Angel Anyone?

  • The rat

    The art can only be one thing…. Damnnation

    • Derek Niles

      Of course, why didn’t I think of that!?

      • The rat

        Guys i was wrong its Jace

        • TJ

          It’s Liliana’s worst nightmare, she was turned into an angel!!

          • Ethan Ford Ford

            I think she would be okay with that immortality yes please

          • The thing is though, she hates angels.

          • jochen hendrickx

            She would also lose her spark; like Ob Nixilis did. Demons and angels can’t be planeswalkers for some reason I don’t remember.

          • Yeah, I was just referring to Killing Wave’s flavor text where she says that she hates angels.

          • Tarpan

            Didn’t Ob lose his spark when he tried to use Zendikar’s mana to get rid of his demon form? The flavortext of Ob Nixilis, the Fallen is “His spark lost, he plots revenge upon the plane whose corrupting mana fractured his soul”.

          • JmLyan

            Pretty sure of this as well. Think I remember reading somewhere that he was still planeswalker when he became a demon, and Nahiri placed a hedron in his forehead to remove his spark.

        • Kevin Johnstone

          Clearly its Tibbalt.

    • TJ

      Could be griselbrands good sister, or evil from his perspective. No, wait it’s Griseldaddies offspring, Griseldaughter!!

    • cement dorado

      I hope so man!!!

  • For the love of butts, Baneslayer and Stoic Angel better be in here.

  • Noatzon

    I’m so god darn annoyed, what can it be? The art above is obviously not Twilight Sheppared as some have specelated about and i can’t come up with more angels that hide the´r faces. It looks Innistrad-ish with the fullmoon and giestvibe. it might be a whole new card from BFZ as that is not unheared of.

    • Wafflehead_Man

      -Both blinded by a piece of white cloth

      -Both wearing a white gown with an identical lower portion
      -It is literally twilight in the picture, you can see in the reflection on the swords.

      Now, of course, this is pure guessing, but it seems clear that this is the art for Twilight Shephard. I would like to hear the logic behind your decision that it can’t be her.

      • Noatzon

        It’s simple: Twilight Shepherd doesn’t carry two swords and she also don’t have two wings, she has four. :)

        • justdiealready

          tbh it looks like elspeth…wasnt she depicted as an angel in the dual decks decree of justice as well?

  • Joshua Hicks

    too many similarities

    • Geoffrey Sweet

      I see some similarities, but, the angel in the artwork is wearing Bant armor. Honestly, she reminds me more of Twilight Shepherd more than Blinding Angel…

    • TJ

      Aside for legendary Angels, and dragons new artwork in any printing is never anything close to the original. Akroma and Reya both look similar with dress and other features but the other don’t. The big this is that for this reprint, twilight shepherd would have been demoted being she had two pairs of wings in the original printing.

    • OrphanSlayer

      Wut

      That’s a Blinding Angel, not Blind Angel. Please read before posting.

  • Derek Niles

    Do we know when official spoilers for this will start? I imagine pretty close to release right?

    • TJ

      There won’t be spoilers, all the cards will be released in one fell swoop, they may release some more art work for us to speculate, but we will know all 15 cards at the same time.

      • Derek Niles

        Sometimes they’re spoilers for it, FTV 20 did that

      • Derek Niles

        Unless that was just an exception to the rule

      • IdiomPolice

        Fell swoop

        • TJ

          Auto corrected, sorry.

  • DCM

    Hmm… Bant armor… Empyrial Archangel?

    • Kyuuri

      Honestly? I think you’re probably right. The original Empyrial Archangel has one sword, clearly, but it also looks like there is a second pommel above her hand. Also, if you look at her neck, it looks like she has a hood that’s just down at the moment. And the armor does look similar. Would be awesome to see a reprint of her too.

  • BobTheTitan

    storm crow?

    • Dr. Burn Crow

      Caught me

  • Give Terry Reid A Chance

    Archangel Of Tithes?

    • Noatzon

      Don’t have two swords so no. And it isn’t Twilight Shepherd because she has two sets of wings.

      • Mother of Runes

        You can’t just throw away ideas because of that. There isn’t any existing angel with a covered head, two wings, and two swords. If there were, everyone would agree on what the angel was.

  • Alexander Colloredo

    I really don’t care what else they print, I just want sunblast angel!

    • cursedsandwich

      Eh. I wanna see some better ones that aren’t reprints of dollar rares if I’m paying a shitton of money for this FTV. That would be like getting Mikaeus the shitty all over again.

  • Bayard Simon-Lariviere

    To me this is immediately Twilight Sheperd

  • Lord_of_Riots

    Akroma’s confirmed. With very strange art.

    • Kaiser

      Two versions of Akroma omfg

  • Thatoneplaneswalker

    Whoah some activity

  • tyke5140

    Whelp, looks like I am getting this set.

  • Brandmuffin

    Why is everyone so suprised? In what world would the make a From the Vault: Angels and not print both Akromas…

  • J. Knox-Chinnery

    I bet that’s baneslayer angel.

    • Armored Troll

      “Fifteen premium foil cards, including five with new art.”
      Probably her new art. YAY!!!

  • TJ

    So I fibbed, got a few spoilers. Don’t know if there will be anything else before two weeks out.

  • Antares

    So two of the “new art slots” are wasted on 2 different Akroma. Wonderful. -_-

    • jochen hendrickx

      Red one is great, white one not so much.

      • Zalvion

        we didnt even need the white one since we had the duel deck art i expected red akroma to be in the set with new art but eh i guess this white akroma art is good too

      • Antares

        It’s less about the quality of the art and more about the “Akroma has been printed to hell and back, why not give the new art to someone like Aurelia, Linvala or Avacyn?” Both of them (among many many others) could use more dynamic art. One thing that bugs me about a lot of angels is that their art is rarely engrossing or dynamic.

  • Benjamin Evans

    hoping for avacyn, and not the crappy m15 one

  • Those Akromas are amazing.

  • Saint Traft

    I’d be very surprised if they didn’t include Baneslayer Angel and Restoration Angel. Those two left their own marks in the Standard rotation they were in.

  • regalrecaller

    That art almost reminds me of Fallen Angel. Also the wings are way too far up on the body, it looks like a poor photoshop job.

  • doeorhtntntntntny

    The two red-hot swords would be incredibly flavorful for blinding angel, not to mention the shroud over its face. On the other hand, adarkar valkyrie wields two swords that are chained together, and this angel’s blades both have handy metal rings for chains, but I don’t think that’s important enough to be anything of note.
    It could be an angel awaiting print in BfZ of course, given that we already have two new pieces of art on old cards.

    • They would’ve announced a card being new if there was going to be one.

    • Fakeromon .

      Zendikari angels have rings over their eyes

  • wwww

    Akroma is so badass both cards that represent her are reprinted in a From the Vault.

  • Deadly Berry

    I usually like Terese Nielsen work, but this… why Akromas are so badly
    drawn? The one from AvsD was great until I noticed the horrible leg
    work, and now this? The image is totally out of position just to show a
    legion of soldiers but we already get tons of soldier prints every
    year…

    I think Terese N. style looks
    good on them, but could’ve been much better if poses were different, and white one in the center of the picture. Forgive me if I’m being rude, I know author spent many hours doing this. For those that haven’t seen it yet, this is how Akroma should look like: http://orig14.deviantart.net/49fb/f/2014/036/b/f/no_rest__no_mercy__no_matter_what__by_merkymerx-d75abbf.jpg

    • Allisin Dietrich

      It’s called the rule of thirds buddy. even the picture you posted uses this rule, albiet differently.

      I think the fanart you posted is great but I like the art they went with just fine, particularly the one for red. Tyrese is not my favorite artist, And I do admit they could have gone with someone else, but the positioning of the image is perfect, from an artistic standpoint. I’m a photographer and an artist with years of training and experience, and I’m telling you they went with a classic style of imagery for this.

      • Not to mention that the 2 arts juxtapose each other from the side of the art that they are on to what is being shown in the backgrounds. Even the wings are completely different, I am really impressed with all the detail that Tyrese Neilson went into for the 2 pieces.

  • Gafratt

    Avacyn?!?!

  • Owen Berth

    We need more Gisela, Blade of Goldnight

  • danthewalrusman

    People need to stop talking about what the card in the art may be for a moment, and see how amazing the art is. It is one of the best arts I have ever seen on an angel, and I would be happy getting it on any card. The akroma’s both look amazing, especially the red one.

    • Kameenook

      Seraph of the Sword

  • fi3ld 0f fir3

    is it just me are all the good angles red or white or both ?

    • cement dorado

      I want a black angel and a blue one, and too top it off a black blue angel. I think it would be an interesting concept.

      • Kahai

        Lightning angel needs new art!

        While i do love her original art, she’d be a great addition to this list, :D

      • Michelle Santos

        There is a black angel called Crypt Angel and a blue angel called Illusory Angel. plus there are black white and blue white angels…

        • cement dorado

          i know. but they aren’t very good…

          • Illusory Angel is very strong.

          • cement dorado

            it doesn’t compare to avacyn or iona

          • That doesn’t matter…

        • Kameenook

          Also Fallen Angel.

  • danthewalrusman

    Do they ever reprint commanders? If so, I am hoping for kaalia the vast.

    • She’s not an angel.

      • ryan

        doesn’t have to be, in the past ftvs we have had cards that aren’t what the ftv is but they have a similarity, for example form of the dragons. kaalia could easily be in here because she “summons” angels, that being said, she will most likely not be in here but it is a possibility

        • The difference is that the cards in FTV: Dragons had something to do exclusively with dragons and/or referenced dragons in the name. Kaalia does neither of those.

    • xSean

      Meanwhile, all of the ones spoiled so far are legendary, meaning they are legal as a commander

      • Travoo Banks

        He means a commander from a commander only product. All of these can be commanders, but they were also in normal packs at one time.

  • megaman

    I never liked Chippy’s Akroma

  • Kyle

    This looks amazing

  • Zach Blackburn

    SO AWESOME. I want!!!!

  • xSean

    I aint even mad if they fill the rest of the set with the angels with protection like “voice of all”
    Linvala or a Restoration angel would be the cherry on top. Do Want!

  • Legendary_Hero7

    Okay. 4 down, 11 to go. So far Akroma, Angel of Fury prediction was right, but I still hope that these make it. These are the other 11 I’d like to see.
    1. Angel of Despair
    2. Baneslayer Angel
    3. Crypt Angel
    4. Desolation Angel
    5. Empyrial Archangel
    6. Firemane Angel
    7. Iridescent Angel
    8. Selenia, Dark Angel (Reprint on card rather than just for online)
    9. Shepherd of the Lost
    10. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls
    11. Voice of All

  • meh

    Im getting happier with each spoiler :D

  • Dr. Burn Crow

    How much is FtV usually?

    • Kameenook

      MSRP $34.99? It’s either that or $39.99

      • Kahai

        Love my local store. Buy a box from the set before a vault, get on reserve list for MSRP. :D

    • BukkakeSniper

      We won’t have a good idea of price until all cards are spoiled. Last year’s vault was the absolute worst valued set in the series…it’s also the only one you’ll be able to find at MSRP.

      If Linvala ends up in the set, you can expect to pay above $100 unless you have a good connection.

    • MSRP is $35ish (I think), so about 5x that. Stores are greedy! Expect hundreds of dollars past the first few minutes.

  • Kameenook

    Waiting for the classic Serra Angel.

  • BukkakeSniper

    Did they really waste an alternate art slot on Iona? Ugly art too, what a shame.

    Here are my predictions for the rest:
    1. Admonition Angel
    2. Angel of Despair
    3. Baneslayer Angel (alternate art)
    4. Maelstrom Archangel
    5. Sublime Archangel
    6. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls
    7. Twilight Shepherd (alternate art)

    8-10. Bruna/Gisela/Sigarda
    11. Some non-creature spell involving angels. Most likely either Angelic Destiny, Decree of Justice, or Entreat the Angels.

    • TJ

      They already show four legendary. I think it will only be one or two more. Also don;t expect any of the cards from multiplayer prints only. Not something they do, because not everyone knows those cards and they really don;t affect the game play as much as the cards that get standard rotation. Expect two non-creature spells, if they piggyback off of dragons, which is the only real set to try to compaare this set up for.

    • ryan

      believe me, serra angel is almost guaranteed. remember, they aren’t just printing the most powerful angels, they are printing angels that actually had impact and serra angel was one of the best creatures in the game up to 5th edition

    • mrwes

      Oh I would LOVE a foil Tariel, she is so badass!

  • TJ

    So here is my list from a few months ago changing Radiant to Akroma, Angel of Fury because Radiant is on the reserved list.
    1) Entreat the Angels – Decree of Justice has had to many reprints.
    2) Angelic Destiny – Serra’s embrace wouldn’t do for From the Vault justice.
    3) Serra – Is there a core set where she hasn’t been reprinted, and a time where she was never a white staple.
    4) Reya – The previous Dragos had 5 legends and Reya is second to only a few.
    5) SPOILED-Avacyn, Angel of Hope – Best angel ever.
    6) Angel of Despair – great card fo the mana, and many bw decks embrace at least one of her.
    7) Firemane Angel or avenger – who doesn’t love free life.
    8) SPOILED-Iona who doesn’t like limiting their opponent color w/ Iona. Iona being in mm2015 I don’t believe she will be in this limited run – cleary wrong on MM2015 interpretation.
    9) Jenara – because +1/+1 counters are fun.
    10) SPOILED-Akroma, Angel of Wrath – kill, kill, kill.
    11) SPOILED-Akroma, Angel of Fury – Swap for silly Radiant prediction
    12) Platinum Angel – Who doesn’t like winning.
    13) Crypt Angel – pro-white on an angel, something hardly ever seen, but it does exist.
    14) Baneslayer Angel – bhind only a very exalted few angels
    15) Linvala- removing all creature abilities, especially elves and other such fun and is just great in power.

  • Ryū

    Diggin’ the new art on Iona. Makes you wonder though, where the hell was this glorious, shining angel when the Eldrazi started doing their whole annihilaty thing?!

    • Alexisgp

      The Eldrazi are colorless, so Iona is powerless against them.

      • Ryū

        She’s still an angel though. I know mechanically she’s useless against them, but I’m talking story wise.

    • danthewalrusman

      Read the flavor text on angelheart vile.

      • Ryū

        I see. I suppose that means she’s probably dead.

    • Rovs

      because Eldrazi has no color

      • Ryū

        I know, I’m talking story wise, not card wise.

  • Griffin Jones

    So happy that Avacyn is joining the party

  • Alexisgp

    I’m very surprised Iona is in there, having been reprinted in Modern Masters 2015.

    It’s also disappointing because I hate this card. It’s the poster child for feel-bad.

    • Ryū

      Nothing says fun like having your opponent drop an Iona when you’re the last two players in a game of commander and you happen to be playing a mono-red deck.

      • TJ

        I don’t know if I would be mean enough to drop her on a mono-deck. I never got a copy for my Heavenly Inferno because of that.

        • Ryū

          My playgroup knows not the meaning of mercy.

          • TJ

            LOL, in a playgroup some mercy is expected, being on a tournemant floor, however, would imply no mercy.

          • Ryū

            Ok, maybe some mercy, but facing a Memnarch who has infinite blue mana doesn’t have a merciful vibe to it.

  • Derek Niles

    Ugh, it bothers me that there is no where anywhere near me that will sell this at MSRP. The closest shop to me (40 minute drive) will sell this for HUNDREDS and the next shop over (about an hour and a half drive) will probably be selling it for anywhere between double the MSR price and $150….I’m so jealous of the people who have non-greedy shops near them!

    • mrwes

      I can’t for the life of me find a DM on discus, so unfortunately EVERYone will see this. But I might be able to get an extra copy to sell on the eBays.

    • TJ

      Dude, check ebay before it gets anymore expensive. I am kicking an email in the morning to wizards about holding their rewarded shops accountable for such rip-off prices. Probably wont go anywhere, but I am getting ready to order this for my Christmas present.

      • Derek Niles

        Tried Ebay, the cheapest right now is like $85

    • TJ

      There probably aren’t any non-greedy shops. Most of them learned after the first few FTV. I have a guy I buy from once and a while and I may see if he would be nice, but I doubt it. Any, and I mean ANY extreme limited release always does this. There wasn’t a single person who bought the Comman Arsenal for MSRP, unless it was the shop owners best friend.

      • Derek Niles

        Yeah, Commander’s Arsenal was my first experience with the fact that they were even allowed to sell things over MSRP. It was ON SALE for like $300 at my shop

      • Ethan Elasky

        my store sells for msrp

        • TJ

          What is the name of your shop. I would like to try and get one at msrp.

        • TJ

          Can I get the name of the shop that you buy from, I maybe looking for an extra copy or two/

    • Eddie

      I have 11 copies left at $50!!! The shop in port royal sc!!!

      • scotch1337

        Do they have a web site and preorder as an option?

        • Eddie Bowles

          Find me on f b

          • TJ

            Do you still have any copies left?

          • Eddie Bowles

            Yes!!! I do!!!

          • TJ

            Should I call the store? I sent you a message via FB and didn’t get a response.

          • Eddie bowles

            Please do yes!!!

      • Derek Niles

        I’m in Pennsylvania lol so can I order them online? I would love to get two or three at that price

        • mrwes

          You might try calling Black Diamond Games in Concord, CA. They let you preorder over the phone. Maybe they’ll be willing to ship it to you? Ask for Gary (the owner) & try calling before 4pm Pacific.

      • Eddie Bowles

        Thank you Josh for handling that so quickly… Yours is confirmed … yes I have eight copies left I believe!!!

        • Derek Niles

          I tried messaging you on facebook but you haven’t gotten back to me yet. I would very much like to place an order

          • Eddie Bowles

            Sure u got the right guy? Ull see my logo of my shop in port Royal sc…I now have 5 left…spencer ur square on ur 2!!! Thanks!!

  • Saint Traft

    Iona’s new art has “THE BOSS” all over it. Love it. xD

  • ryan

    its when wizards disappoint us all and they spoil this as an angel token…

  • Matti

    Went to my shop just now, they will handle msrp price (EU belgium). They warn it might be a bit higher then the 35$ msrp but think it won’t be higher the 50 euro, so still good deal (this is because of the high dollar, low euro, pushing magic prices in EU, fat packs here are now 37 euro)! immediately pre-ordered 3. And i’m the first this time (for modern masters boosterbox, i was 43th on the list of (total, not people queue) boxes ordered. Another shop wel known/big internet/physical shop is asking 125 euro! way to much.

    Very glad Avacyn is in it (been a high want for ages, never expected her in this set). Iona is nice to have extra, but I just pulled her from MM2, and that is a much more “i’m badass” look. The Akroma’s I like a lot. My favorite art is still the Legions version, but this one comes very close. It seems based on the akroma’s vengeance art, mixed with the style of Therese Nielsen. Third one is the one from duel decks that I also own. i will now own all Akroma arts.

    There’s only one thing one my mind ‘must be in set’, but then my realism says it will be a no :) Linvala, Keeper or Silence. As precaution I bought one of the last cheaply listed Linvala’s just in case she’s not princed in set. Your thoughts? Will Linvala make it? or is that madness.

    Other wants are Maelstrom Angel, Gisela and Sigarda. Bruna is cute, but not really playable, and the Art while good, doesn’t really stand out. Wouldn’t mind another Serra Avenger. As for Serra Angel i’m very curious wich art they will use.

    • Taxle

      hmm i’m sorry to tell you this, but 37€ for a fatpack of the latest edition is a scam. at my local gamestore in germany they are always 29.95€ (which is still higher than the msrp, but i like to support my local game store). The problem of the “strong” dollar and low euro is, that people buy stuff in europe and not in the states. wizards has not yet changed the € prizes for ordering their stuff.

      • Matti

        Well Fat packs I don’t buy there honestly. But in Belgium magic is dying slowly, Gent is one of the last popular cities and even booster boxes there cost 100 euro, fat pack 34 euro, while in nederland you can easely get them for 90 euro boosterbox. There is one singular online shop, with very limited magic offerings, who is doing minimal profit shop (it’s not his job, just his hobby) and sells fatpacks 30 euro (27 euro if 6 ordered at once), booster box 83 euro. (Used to be 80 euro). While 37 euro for fatpack is definitely high, the problem lies, in that this shops main focus is not magic. It’s car models (you know the mini electric driving cars you can buy in specialized shops), then secondary board games (all at list price, not under not higher, but there’s a 10% customer discount – this is for magic too btw). Magic is mostly a filler. The sales here to my experience and popularity of magic are much lower then in Gent (wich has multiple magic shops, each selling more then this one). It’s not an excuse, but still :D This shop is one of the few who sells at MSRP. They sold me modern masters 200 euro (20 euro discount so technically 180 euro). He is now selling Conspiracy boosterbox for 77 euro, cause he got them cheap in north Europe. When he tells me ‘the magic importer who we buy from raised the price on all magic products. We can still sell boosterbox at same price cause there’s good margin on that product, but on fatpacks we had to rise the price’, then I believe him. Netherland, France, German are bad examples. Magic is so big there the importer might not feel the need to raise the price, cause the sales compensate. Belgium however is different. I know at least 10 magic shops that quit/gotten smaller in the last 5 years. For some time, my city, (capical city of subcountry), had no specialized magic shop for a long time.

        It’s no excuse but it’s same with hardware and other stuff. Less competition, less offerings, higher price from to pay to retailers, and ultimately higher price in shop. Belgium is expensive country in that matter. It’s why I lately order all Blu-ray’s elsewhere.

        Basically this shop is extremely good for products that are high demand, low supply (modern masters, from the vault, duel decks etc), cause they sell at msrp, or at most slightly higher. For standard stuff like boosterbox, fatpack they are expensive, unless on sale. Hence I buy that stuff mostly elsewhere.

        • Taxle

          well, i must say you made some good arguments. sour about your situation, or the situation of small countrys.

    • Mantra

      Can I know what shop it is ?

      • Matti

        Verbrugghe Neverland (in Bruges, there’s a Neverland in Kortrijk Also if i’m remembering correct)

        • Mantra

          Erf , I’m looking for a shop that would sell it in Brussels

  • GiantKittyKat

    That Iona is amazing I can only Imagine what it’s going to look like in foil.

  • St. Louis Magic

    For some reason I feel the set will not complete without Archangel of Thune. This card can be so powerful with the right combinations.

  • tyke5140

    I knew I should have pre-ordered this set way sooner. Some of these prices are disgusting.

  • Toorlokviing

    thank god im getting mine at a discount for preordering this. helps to be a regular and known customer to a local shop. 120$ isnt too bad of a deal for me since we all know this ftv will shoot up exponentially in price after release.

    • Ethan Elasky

      my game shop is sellign them for msrp

  • Derrick Webb

    Need to find a place that doesn’t market value product. Msrp is the way to go.

    • Derek Niles

      Good luck with that, i just got really lucky and found a man in Port Royal SC who is selling them at $50 each. After my order this morning he has 2 left so if you want to order find his facebook page. His name is Eddie Bowles and his shop is actually called “The Shop” lol

      • Eddie bowles

        Sure hope tj sees this…he’s been trying to contact me but I have no message from him…send friend request or write review do sumthun so I can find you!!!

      • Derrick Webb

        No luck needed my main store always sells at msrp. They never jack up prices. There’s a few her that do but this doesn’t

        • TJ

          Can I get the name of your store? Want to see if they have one or two sets left.

          • Derrick Webb

            They’re local only, and have been sold out since announcement day. So unless you plane on being in Indiana don’t think it would help even if they did have some left. I may be getting a couple from other sources if I do and your unable to get one I could work something out with you.

          • TJ

            Let me know. I have family still close to Indiana, though I am not.

          • TJ

            For future reference though, if it is ok, I’ll keep the name and maybe be able to work someting out on future limted runs like this. Only if your up for it though. I can be a bit pushy at times.

  • Eddie Bowles

    Derek ur 3 are confirmed!!! Have 2 left at $50!!! Anybody else???

    • Alokoneses

      Yes, if shipping to Europe and if it’s legit

  • Eddie Bowles

    Sorry no only within the states…

  • da

    Lf> Tariel, Reckoner of Souls to be reprinted in foil <3

    • TJ

      Not likely, her only print was in commander. All cards in FTV have been from products which have been in standard rotation. There is a first time for everything, but I wouldn’t look for it here. If they did an FTV Commander, it would be a decent chance, however, there have only been 30 actual commanders and and roughly only 40 other cards that have been printed exclusively in the commander series. I am sure that one of these days it will come, and with it will be a huge price tag in the after market, because only a small handful of Commander only prints have been done in foil.

      • da

        :p

      • EVERYdayImMEH

        Jokes on you, then.

        • TJ

          What joke, this is a first in the FTV series of prints, never before had they printed commander only specific cards in FTV though they have had many opportunities. Based on past precedent, which there has been enough to do, most people would not have actually expected her. There are a dozen other angels people would rather have.

  • danthewalrusman

    If I order it on ebay and the offer says New Sealed, Does that mean its unopened and includes everythin?Im not sure what sealed means.

    • Dr. Chuggo

      yeah ‘New Sealed’ means unopened, sealed in the original wrapping it comes with

  • Name

    I’m surprised so many game stores are selling above msrp. Mine has always sold at that price.

  • Ryan LeBeau

    My dream set would be these 4, Aurelia, Baneslayer, Serenity, Linvala, Bruna, Sigarda, Gisela, Admoniton, Despair, Platinum, and Restoration. That would make the set my dream, but they’ll probably put in Empyrial, Basandra, or Razia for some stupid reason so that there isn’t blowout value.

  • Merp

    Luckily for me Walmart seems to sell from the vault products as last Time Walmart had from the vault board wipes I will call it and they seem to sell everything at msrp so I won’t be surprised if Walmart has it this time around aswell.

    • TJ

      Walmart got a wrong shipment, the only way to get from the vault products is to be a game shop that holds tournaments, and you are slotted some many from the vaults based on attendance. Walmart shouldn’t have any from the vault product at all. Think of it like this, if you can’t be modern masters at Walmart or target, other similarly limited release products available only in English won’t be there either.

      • Exyrea

        Target here got Modern Masters the first one, but not the second

        • TJ

          Like I said, something went awry on a shipment. The From the Vault and Modern Masters series are only given to stores based on how many events and the participation in those events, and on W.o.t.C. Release statements, they say how limited the supply is to the gaming store.

          • scotch1337

            Hmmm I would imagine that may not be right, there are too many checks and balances during a shipping process. Product count, retailer requests, invoices, shipping labels, and others. I can see your reasoning if it were a game store, but a big name like Walmart? Who wouldn’t catch that mistake? Either way, I would consider it a lucky find and be fortunate if it happens to you.

          • TJ

            In order the have access to the FTV series, the store must be a core level shop, which means, host 4 events, have at least 30 unique players, host a single event with more than 12 players, intro 6 new players Ina WPN event and maintain less then a 20% delinquency rate. My only guess as to why Walmart would have had FTV: Annihilation, is that that run isn’t moving and so then vender ordered them from a game store somewhere, however, Walmart and Target alike don’t have direct acces to MM or FTV, because they don’t host events.

          • scotch1337

            Hmm interesting. Could wizards use the big boxes to unload unordered merchandise if more was made than store who have access to the product?

          • TJ

            It is possible, I guess. FTV Annihilation isn’t going anywhere near af fast as any ot the others. I can find it around here at shops for 30$. They made the same amount of the product they always have, but since it isn’t moving anywhere near as fast as the others, it had to go somewhere I guess. Do consider yourself lucky if you can find I a Walmart. Now, consider what the demand would have been for Annihilation I’d they had included…….Damnation.

          • Ben

            Target and Walmart don’t order their own MTG product. Its outsourced to 3rd party company. They get the product from WotC and they decide which retail stores get what. That being said I’ve never seen LGS only products (FTV, MM, and the original event decks) at a big box retailer. but with what I know about how they manage the product it is possible I guess. I’ve found a wide variety of stuff there.

          • Matthew

            No TJ is correct no chance of this happening without some serious error. This is a bonus given to local shops, and not sold at chains at all.

  • Derek Niles

    MOAR! I NEED MOAR SPOILERS!

  • MtgDude

    This already has more then I thought it would so the rest don’t matter but hoping for serra angel, Platinum,

    Indomitable Archangel, Angel of Despair… so many choices.

    • Antares

      Aurelia, Linvala and Archangel.

      Aurelia is my favorite angel character (unless WotC *FINALLY* gives us a Feather card). Linvala is baller, and Archangel was my first angel creature.

      • Derek Niles

        Come one Wizards! The Fans want Feather!

        • TJ

          I seem to be a bit retarted here. What is a feather card?

          • Derek Niles

            Feather in an Angel from Ravnica and she was the leader of the Boros for some time. She was betrayed and locked away when another angel, Aurelia, took over the guild. Feather has some really cool backstory and is a fan favorite for a lot of people (myself included) but she never got a card

          • TJ

            If the next set was a Ravnica based set, Feather may actually have been a preview card. However, since were heading to Zendikar, artwork is either a new zendikar angel, which isn’t likely, as with previous sets when they made the announcement, they made it known that there was a preview card in the set, or the artwork is a reworking of another non-legendary angel.

          • Derek Niles

            There’s no way we are getting one right now, Return to Ravnica is not nearly old enough to justify a third trip there (even though I would love that) and new cards aren’t in From the Vault product because that would be the exact opposite of the point of the FtV series we were just saying that we would really, one day, like a card for Feather. Like maybe in those preconstructed EDH decks they make that always have new legendaries in them or a new planechase series or something along those lines

          • TJ

            Though in some of the FTV series, they have released preview cards.

        • MtgDude

          Yes please.

      • MtgDude

        Feather would be amazing, Aurelia is awesome she’s in my Kaalia edh, with Avacyn and Iona I don’t think we will see Linvala but of course would be awesome and yeah Archangel is classic! My first angel was Serra Angel pulled it in my second ever pack of magic revised. I don’t have a favorite tho too hard to pick but if forced to probably Avacyn.

  • scotch1337

    Am I mistaken, all of the from the vaults have only mythic cards. So Serra and archangel would most likely not be in it.

    • TJ

      They are printed as mythic, because there is such a limited run of the set. They release the exact same amount of each, no matter their previous rarities during regular set print runs.

  • Eddie bowles

    No…ftv are not ALL mythics…take Jessie wolf run for instance…it was a rare…dark ritual has been printed at birth common and uncommon…the set symbol makes it look as though they are mythics when in fact at original printing this matters not.

  • Ralph Fowler

    honestly for me this is already enough to say yes I am getting it, but still hoping for Platinum Angel, Linvala, and Akroma’s Memorial soooo much

    • Saint Traft

      There’s 10 unrevealed Angels. There’s a good chance Platinum and Linvala will make it through since they’ve seen and are still seeing a lot of play. I doubt the Memorial will make it though; it’s an Artifact with an angel theme.

      • Derek Niles

        Dragonstorm was in FTV Dragons. So it doesn’t have to be creatures with that type, as long as the card fits the theme. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Entreat the Angels in here but I think both Akromas and her memorial might be a bit too much Akroma lol

      • TJ

        Actually, there are 11 un-revealed cards at this time and there is a fairly good chance one if not two will be angel themed but not be creatures, and in all likely hood it will be two out of the three following, Akroma’s Memorial, Entreat the Angels or Angelic Destiny. Leaving 8 more creature cards at least. There were two cards in FTV Dragons that were not dragons, DragonStorm and Form of the Dragon. Being this is only the second creature subtype set, dragons being the first, it is really hard to go off past precedents with only one set to go from.

        • Saint Traft

          Ah, right. My bad, got distracted by the 5th but un-named card art above. I didn’t know about that bit concerning FTV Dragons though. If that’s the case, then yes you are correct, it would be surprising if memorial and destiny didn’t make it through.

  • DevilTheKing

    I want an Aurelia. Am I the only one?

    • TJ

      Sorry, got two already and she is pretty cheap still.

      • DevilTheKing

        Eh. I guess. Maybe I’m just biased because I love Boros aggro. What about a Maelstrom Archangel? I have one but would like a cheaper version to playset in my 5 color control.

        • TJ

          For what it is worth, I love Aurelia, she went into my Heavenly Inferno a week after release. It would be nice for copy number three.

        • Toorlokviing

          we really need a 5 color leg angel for commander. dragons have one but angels dont. they could always turn maelstrom into a leg considering how ridiculously awesome her effect is. but eh one can dream right?

    • Toorlokviing

      gisela would be a better pick imo

      • Fureddi

        Got both, a 2nd of both would be gravy but more wanting an Archangel of Thune.

  • Exyrea

    eh, decided to preorder it, Linvala would be nice but not nessisary, as I read somewhere they were trying to push a more lore related angel for this from the vault than just good cards (which if true would cancel out stuff like Baneslayer), Honestly I’m only really hoping for Sigarda atm

  • Sugar thekitty

    I doubt that they’ll do it, but I think it would be very smart to reprint Kaalia of the Vast. She has only had older and limited prints before, and it would encourage people to make a commander deck with her and keep and enjoy much of the From the Vault: Angels to go in the deck.

    • TJ

      Most of her versions are still in the original format in which she came. Kaalia won;t make a run here for several reasons, one she was commander print run only, they have yet to put Commander and Planeschase only released cards in the from the vault series. 2 She isn’t explicitly angel and has to much other flavor tied in. The third reason, is outside of cards that were released as preview cards, all other cards were standard staples and affected the game while they were standard legal.

      • Sugar thekitty

        We’ll just have to see. I think it has a chance, but I doubt they’ll do it. Though, she is a popular commander, 30-something dollars, and very difficult to reprint anywhere, so I think she would be an excellent choice. There aren’t any real rules for From the Vault. It doesn’t matter that she isn’t an angel- in the only other From the Vaults tribal, Dragons, there were two non-dragon cards that referenced dragons. But yes, she does reference other creature types as well, which makes her less likely. Wizards will do whatever they want and don’t care overly much for being consistent.

        • TJ

          The two non-dragon creature cards in FTV Dragons were explicitly dragons related though, they weren’t dragons and other creatures. The main point here though, is that none of the cards they have reprinted to this time, have been run in sets that were exclusive deck built, limited runs. There were several creatures run in the latest planeschase 2012 series that weren’t reprinted anywhere else simply because they are not necessary. If you read one of the articles done by W.o.t.C. when dragons was released, you will see that most of what they mention has a great deal to do with how these particular cards affected the tournament era they were released in, protours, etc… More improtantly, if she was going to have been reprinted, either FTV Legends in Aug 2011 or FTV 20 in Aug 2013 really would have been the way to go. But the pretty simple fact that she has never been Standard Tourny legal and therefore her only consistent home has been in Commander, which is why she won;t get a printing here. However, those who love her should not be dismayed, i foresee that within the next several years, with the release of more Commander geared Deck by WotC, there will be a from the Vault series that is strictly geared toward cards released in those decks only.

          • Sugar thekitty

            When From the Vault Legends was released, she had only been invented/released for the first time a month ago. From the Vault 20 would really not have been an option, because that one was specifically celebrating 20 years and highlighting a card that had been prominent in the tourney deck(s) of that year. But, point taken. I wasn’t saying that I thought she would be printed here, only that it would be at least slightly possible, and a well-appreciated choice if they made that decision, because she’s expensive (currently sitting higher than Avacyn after the announcement, though still a bit lower than Linvala) and a popular commander.

          • TJ

            Yeah, but Mikaeus, wasn’t even actually printed in the set yet as he was still a few months from release. Kaalia is one of the best commanders, and popular, because she was sold only in commander decks, and even her one reprinting came thhrough the commander’s arsenal. In the world of most of us casual non-legacy tournament types she is semi-expensive, but in relationship, she is actually somewhat cheap (which is hard for me to spit out). I would absolutely love a foiled reprint here, but have accepted to reality that it wouldn’t fit the bill. I agree and would love to se her reprinted, and would be stunned if they did so but would welcome it very much. If you read many of the FTV R&D articles, all of there cards have been tourney staples. Like I said though, with the Commander prebuilt deckseries, that have printed at about 40 cards exclusively for commander every release and somewhere in the future I see an FTV Commander and would almost bet my house that she would be in that set.

          • DistortionStrike317

            I think wizards will just do whatever they want. We can guess by precedent, but that has the inherent problem that wizards has precedent of breaking precedent. Before JMS there was never a walker in FTV.

          • TJ

            Until FTV20, there had never been a type cast capable of fitting a planeswalker. If JMS hadn’t been in there, stone forge would have taken his place. But then again, WotC does like surprises.

        • B

          She is a great card,
          but as TJ said she is not a angel. In the dragons all creatures were dragons. The other two were non creature spells that are directly related to dragons. That is why they use Angel or Dragons in the title. So all creatures will be angels. There could be a non creature card like Akroma’s Memorial, Entreat the Angels, or similar that are directly related to angels.

    • Timmy Lambrix

      I would rather not encourage people to build Kaalia EDH decks, for much of the same reason as I wouldn’t encourage people to build Nekusar, Zur, or Xiahou Dun. Yes, they are good; yes, they are consistent, but no one likes playing against them. They are waaaay too Spikey and for such a casual format, leave the competitiveness for the tournaments.

      The last thing I need at our EDH night is 3 people coming with Kaalia decks; I’m tired of the one we have killing me consitently on turn 2-3, don’t wanna deal with that any more than i have too…

      • DistortionStrike317

        But for some playgroups Kaalia would be just fine. I definitely know of play groups where the game is very tight control followed by a hard to stop combo win. Here a creature of Kaalia’s power would be needed to give creature decks a chance against board wipe, boardwipe, combo. Also commander is not an exclusively casual format. Dual commander is a geared for tournament version of commander, where Kaalia is a popular but by no means overpowered general (her deck is about one percent of the meta according to mtgtop8).

  • joe

    are there any chances of getting Baneslayer?

    • Derek Niles

      I would be absolutely shocked if she wasn’t in here

  • Joel

    Entreat the Angels!!!

  • Andrew

    Serra angel looks confirmed.

    • Danath

      one im disappointed in Wizards for even printing this card, which we dont need another print of.
      Two Since they are reprinting this card could they have found any worse artwork for Serra? at least give us something like the 8th/9th ect artwork…
      Also have to note that im not too font of the angel of fury artwork ether

      • Fureddi

        Mate, this artwork was a special one they did years ago on an Oversized and no-where else… I’m not surprised they’ve decided to put it on a useable card now as it fits the set.

        Do agree there are more wanted Angels out… like Archangel of Thune… man I want one of those puppies.

        • Danath

          Yes serra might be “iconic”, but out of 115 angels out there they couldnt have picked something more interesting then the most over printed angel of all time. Like Angel of light or example its only been printed twice and its probably an angel very few people have.

          Now im just hoping that theres something VERY interesting for the next 10 cards.

      • xSean

        It’s iconic, its also a predecessor to all angels. It’d be a miracle and shame if it did not show in this set. I’m quite happy so far with this product, with Serra as a mythic too

      • Melissa Juice

        Serra Angel ABSOLUTELY needed to be in this set. First angel.

        Also, this new art is incredible. The 8th edition art was terrible.

      • Chris Maser

        I will gladly, gladly take your serra angel off your hands.

      • TJ

        There wasn’t a way Serra angel was going to miss this set. However the way old school cartoonish art is slightly disappointing considering how far art has come since the nineties. A more powerful looking art work would have been nice. However, since this isn’t new artwork for her, just in this size, do you think it counts as one of the new five arts. It would be interesting to know.

      • Ghar

        Worse art? That’s Rebecca Guay, buddy. There are few artists in the entire game with the quality and style she produces. While I think Magic cards these days look great, the fact she hasn’t made a new card in a long time is a detriment to the game overall.

  • Nharzhool

    Come on, WOTC! Don’t fail me now…10 slots left, and you need to get the Powerpuff Girls, Jenara, Aurelia, Baneslayer, and Maelstrom Archangel in there. Maybe even a Tariel…

    • Antares

      Boo on Tariel. Not worth it (especially a Commander only card). I’m definitely with you on Jenara, Aurelia, and the Powerpuff Girls. I’d want Linvala to be in this as well. After that, it’s anybody guess what will be in.

      • Vizzerdrix

        No aurelia it wont fit the name and number crunch as avacyn is 3 after akroma,

        • Nharzhool

          yeah, Sigarda won’t make the cut either…makes me sad. I really needed another – at least they’re moderately cheap.

  • Brian McCullar

    Come on foil Serra’s Sanctum! Don’t argue, if we got Shivan Gorge in dragons, we CAN get this! Lol

    • But, we didn’t get Shivan Gorge in FtV: Dragons…

      • Brian McCullar

        I named the wrong set but you get the idea lol

        • The idea doesn’t matter if your main point was having Shivan Gorge in FtV: Dragons. In fact it was in FtV: Realms, which was all lands.

    • Claire Redfield

      Ha! I’d kill for a modern card frame version of Serra’s Sanctum. I don’t think it’ll happen, but that would be fantastic, and hopefully a prelude to one day getting a Serra Planeswalker.

    • Netwing

      That came in From the Vault Realms not dragons.

    • TJ

      Serra Sanctum, much like Radiant, who would have been amazing here is actually on the reserved list, which personally think should go the way of the dodo.

  • Robin King

    Probably alone on this but… Angel’s Trumpet would be nice… if only because the art and effect seem like Aurelia’s blowing it.

  • Vizzerdrix

    Well i knew serra angel would be here but still a little dissapointing to see it here

  • MtgDude

    Angelic Destiny would be awesome too.

  • Benjamin Blessing

    thats 4 out of 5 of the new arts, one left, kinda dissapointed in iona and serra angel new arts, but they are still good

    • Netwing

      If Serra technically counts as new art we got ll 5 new arts just not sure what the angel is for #5. But the Rebecca Guay art has never been on a playable version of Serra. So could go either way.. I am hoping it doesn’t count although I do love the art.

  • TJ

    Just wondering rather wizards considers Serra to be new art considering it was printed on a card before, all be it not Tourny legal. Just wondering what their thought is on it.

    • Netwing

      I am with you there technically not new art has been around for ages. It will be first time it hits a playable card but not sure if it qualifies as new art =)

    • scotch1337

      I think that that art has the potential of looking the best with foiling process out of any of them currently

      • TJ

        Really difficult to tell though, since we don’t know what the foiling looks like on the others,

  • Derrick Webb

    Are they really turning an uncommon into a mythic?

    • TJ

      They tend to do it with some cards for the FTV. It isn’t that in all future printings Serra would be a mythic. It is that because of how low the numbers are in print everycard in this set as all other from the Vault sets gain mythic status for the release. However, for Serra, they have returned her to at least rare status, which is where she stood until the M10 core set reboot which saw her demoted to uncommon. But, like I said, if you look at all of the other card in the FTV series, there are several that were uncommons in Expansion core set, which were granted mythic, simply because of the much lower volume they produce cards at for these runs.

      • Kristian

        Sorry, dude, but before 7th edition, Serra was uncommon. She and Sengir Vampire were the awesomest uncommons in Revised, when I started playing. They were the only two uncommons I ever wanted to see in packs. How the times change…

        • TJ

          true, when I first started playing I thought she was rare because of how hard it was to get my hands on one and told they were rare. As I started she left core for a few rounds and it was harder to get for a few years. It was not until later that I realized she was only uncommon and forgot about it.

    • Brad Richards

      Serra angel actually started out as a rare. I have a rare one.

    • Melissa Juice

      They will turn commons to mythics, yes, as *all* cards in Vault sets are given mythic status.

  • The Pudge

    Ummmnn…. Tariel! Delicious! Lol!

  • TJ

    Can’t believe they did it. First time for everything.

  • BukkakeSniper

    Now that Tariel’s confirmed as #15 in the set, we know for certain that Twilight Shepherd can’t be the alternate art angel featured above. Maybe Archangel of Thune?

    • MtgDude

      My money is on blinding angel or Gisela.

      • Kyle

        Probably Blinding Angel. I would be shocked if Gisela got new art at this point in time.

        • Nharzhool

          Man, I would love me some new art for my Blinding Angel…love that card!

    • TJ

      Could be a preview, the announcement doesn’t mention a preview card, but with dropping a commander only print run card, WotC could have some other tricks in their hat.

      • Mundungu

        It will be Blinding Angel, no doubt… Been saying that since the art was revealed

        • TJ

          And 3/4 of the board would have sworn their soul away for twilight shepherd. At this point in time, the art doesn’t matter just the rest of the cards. As I said earlier, could be a preview card or one of a number of angels.

          • Mundungu

            Twilight Shepherd would have been so good. Doubt it will be a preview card, they haven’t done that since FTV Legends, which is a shame ’cause I used to love the idea of a preview card.. My money’s still on Blinding Angel, considering what’s been spoiled, they need to throw some cheap stuff in there to keep the costs down, as per usual..

          • TJ

            The last preview card in a set was actually Sowrd of Body and Mind in Relics. I didn’t pay that much attention to annihilation, but heard a rumor that Duneblast was “supposed to” have been in it as a preview. Secondly, what costs. Wizards pays the same little ammount to print each card. They really don’t play or worry about the seond market that often. However, the only reason they really keep costs down is the fact that most of the really good and great cards are all on the reserved list.

    • Omma Magni

      It’s probably Angelic Overseer. They both have a moonlit night in the background of their art.

  • Sugar thekitty

    So, there’s two that will be alphabetically between the Akromas and Avacyn… Now, since the word “Angel” falls in that gap, there’s quite a few options. Any hopes? I’m hoping for Archangel of Thune and Archangel of Tithes, but who knows…

    • Exeko

      It could also be Akroma’s Memorial. I highly doubt Archangel of Tithes will be in there. It is a brand new stapple.

      It could be Angel of Serenity, Angel of Despair, Aurelia, Archangel of Thunes or something as boring as Archangel or Angel of Finality

    • Vizzerdrix

      oh i thought it was 3 not 5. good to know

  • Andrea Francesco Nucci

    Give me a Linvala!

    • Joshua Alt

      We can all hope, I am not sure if I want her to have the last alternate artwork or not.

  • Saint Traft

    Huh? Tariel made it?

  • SomeDude

    Foil modern card frame Serra’s Sanctum to the people!

    • Kristian

      No luck, Dude, it’s on the reserve list

      • Claire Redfield

        Does that completely stop it from being reprinted even in a From the Vaults set? Some of the reserved cards made it into Vintage Masters, and despite it being the Storm Scale’s namesake, Dragonstorm made it into FTV: Dragons.

        • JmLyan

          Storm Scale is only about whether mechanics will return or not, cards with those mechanics can still be reprinted in from the vault and similar products. And Vintage Masters is online only, hence why it can bypass the reserved list.

          • Claire Redfield

            Ah, okay, good to know. Thanks! Alas, I was hoping for a modern frame Serra’s Sanctum, even with changed mechanics (like a white version of Cabal Coffers or something, hinging on number of enchantments) to pair with Enchanted Evening. But it’s white’s fate to lack in good mana ramp options by design!

          • Sugar thekitty

            Well, Knight of the White Orchid and Land tax… but yeah, compared to green’s options… sigh

          • Claire Redfield

            I’d love to avoid using non-Angel options for the Angel deck I’m trying to create, but there isn’t a lot. KotWO fits a general angelic/holy warrior theme well enough, but I’d kill to have some of those promo Land Tax! Ah well, at least there’s Ancient Tomb and bunt of really good stall options until I can use Quicksilver Amulet or something to bring out the big guns.

          • Just play both, scrubs =3

            #W/GRecruiter

      • SomeDude

        Oh, didn’t know that, too bad though, it would have looked amazing :/

    • Exe

      Serra’s Sanctum will not be there since Serra Angel is #14 followed by Tariel!! ^.-

  • GiantKittyKat

    Tariel?! I didn’t expect you to be here, well this is a pleasant surprise.

  • Vizzerdrix

    So 2 weeks away should probably get a couple cards spoiled this weekend or Monday? I preordered and I’m happy so far much more than annihilation but I need to see what the art is for. Pretty sure twilight Sheppard been my guess from the start

    • Exe

      Cant be Sheppard, they’re in alphabetical order and #15 is Tariel.

      • Name

        But then what angels could possibly be printed? After Tariel there is twilight shepherd which must be the nameless spoiled art so far, and then there are… he voice cycle of angels? Not many good angels after Tariel, both artwork and gameplay-wise imho.

        • Name

          Oh, derp, just reread and realized you aid Taie is number 15 XD, too late at night for this…

      • Vizzerdrix

        Hmm angel of despair?

  • DevilTheKing

    C’mon Serra Angel?! Couldn’t have been anything better? I’m still holding out hope for Aurelia and Maelstrom. But seriously, an uncommon boosted to mythic, what a joke. (Sorry, but that’s what I think. Partially because I’m still holding a grudge on that Serra Angel I drew when I desperately needed a land which caused me to lose the game of ante and a Sensei’s Divining Top.)

    • TJ

      It is only “boosted to mythic” because of the extreme limited print they do. Serra angel was always a lock for this set. She has been a staple in nearly every release and some she was nearly released in every core set, that was a boat load. If you look at many of the ftvs you will see a lot of so so rares, uncommons with mythic emblems, because of the limited set run of ftv.

      • DevilTheKing

        Ok, true, I can see that, (Hymn to Tourach) but I just think Serra Angel is a tad underpowered for this.

        • EVERYdayImMEH

          It isn’t about power level lol, the only qualification to be in this FTV is to be an angel, and Serra Angel more than enough meets those qualifications. Plus given its history in mtg, I wasn’t surprised.

          • DevilTheKing

            I do realize that but I did expect something better tuned to today’s power standards. I started back in 4th ed when this was overpowered as f**k and yes, it’s history is great and it’s an obvious icon of the game but it’s been reprinted in 20 sets and I would’ve liked something a bit more powerful especially when it’s 21 cents on amazon and it’s 1/15 of a $35 set I’m going to buy.

          • ggg

            FTV is tuned for nostalgia just as much as play ability. I don’t know your age but Serra Angel was more or less THE Angel back in the day and defined many of the early sets. Considering how iconic she was to most of our childhoods growing up, it would have been more of a shocker if she wasn’t included with alternate art. Not every card in a FTV is about “value”, FTV is meant to be a nostalgia trip back to cards that defined different sets and this fits perfectly with that vibe.

          • DevilTheKing

            Yes, I know, I’m in my mid-30s and Serra Angel was everywhere back then. But, as I said, I’m really looking for some bashers.

          • EVERYdayImMEH

            It was also reprinted for the FTV with art that previously wasn’t tournament legal, so yeah I’m satisfied that they put it in there, and I preordered the set for 70.

          • DevilTheKing

            I preordered for 120 because I love angels but that very fact leads me to the unfortunate situation of already owning 8 Serra Angels.

    • Netwing

      can’t be Aurelia cause she does not fit alphabetically anymore.

      • Nharzhool

        Aurelia could fit between Akroma (1,2) and Avacyn (5).

        • Vizzerdrix

          i more interested in seeing angel of despair than aurelia in those 2 spots

    • Ryan Mena

      Also worth considering that not many cards like Serra Angel can survive being continually printed since Alpha. Knew she’d get printed here, glad she is, always a monster in limited, staple angel since the game’s inception

    • Saint Traft

      Because she’s an icon and have always been among the top picks in Limited White.

      • DevilTheKing

        Read below

    • You do realise that all cards in from the vault sets (in recent years) have been Mythic? Also; Serra Angel is in here because it is one of the most iconic white cards in the history of the game – and, for quite awhile, the best creature.

      • DevilTheKing

        Alright guys, this is getting old. I’ve answered all of your questions again and again. @maringam:disqus read my comments below.

    • DevilTheKing

      Guys, basically the whole point of me starting this was to boycott Serra Angel, as it was overpowered back in the day, but now those days are gone so WoTC shouldn’t reprint her 21 times. Still want a Maelstrom.

      • Mundungu

        Seriously, Serra Angel was the most obvious choice, they couldn’t make this set without re-printing her.. Sure none of us need another Serra Angel to add to the 20 we already all have, but the art is pretty damn sweet and will definitely go into my Angel deck.. Oh and I’ll be extremely pissed if they don’t print Maelstrom, they pretty much have to as the only five colour Angel. I’m pretty sure Illusory Angel will make it’s way in as the only mono-blue Angel..

    • Chris Maser

      I’ll take your Serra Angel….

  • TJ

    This is what I do know, is that the above art work is for a non-legendary creature, unless that legend is a preview card for BFZ (Best Friend of Zendikar……..). All legendary angels exist only in one plane, and since their look is unique to the one plane it only changes very little.

  • EVERYdayImMEH

    Pristine Angel, anyone?

    • Matti

      Reprinted a lot of them in Conspiracy (one of the highest print runs). I pulled 2 from 3 boosterboxes, and price currently is very low. While i’m an absolute fan of this card, I think I rather have it not taking the slots of potential other great angels.

      • TJ

        Still possible at the point in time.

      • EVERYdayImMEH

        Ah, didn’t realize she was reprinted in conspiracy. Thanks for letting me know.

  • Vizzerdrix

    Angel of despair between akroma and avacyn? id much prefer it over aurelia though i wouldnt mind having a foil and yes i know both can fit

  • Mundungu

    What’s taking so long wth the spoilers? Decree of Justice would be really sweet as an Angel related non-creature card

    • booo! Angles and only angels. You could put anything or anyone on Decree of Justice. It’s not an angel related card it just a wrath and they already did annihilation. Go angles or go home playa.

      • Mundungu

        I think you’ve got your Decree’s mixed up.. Decree of Justice is completely Angel related, as it puts X 4/4 Angel tokens into play. You must be thinking of Decree of Pain, which is far superior to Wrath since you draw cards.. fro EDH anyway, which is the Ultimate format!

        • TJ

          Decree f justice is also soldier related, if you cycle it, don’t see it in here especially with two printing within 6 months already.

  • Hollow Clyde

    Why Tariel? You have Sigarda, Lightning Angel, Aurelia, Razia, Gisela, even Fallen Angel…
    Personally Im hoping for Entreat the Angels or Luminarch Ascension.

    also rather then Serra angel they shoulda brought the card that demoted Serra angel to an uncommon instead, Baneslayer Angel.

    • They already have an angel from from Avacyn so Sigarda and Gisela would be kinda redundant. Razia is not really all that famous as far as angels go. and If this is anything liek the previous FTV the it’s probobbly going to be all creatures so I think Entreat the Angels, Luminarch Ascension or any other spells or enchantments are out of the question. I think your best bet on the next reveal would probably be either Fallen angel or Platinum Angel. All I knwo for shore is that if they announce Linvala, Keeper of Silence then this set will be unaffordable
      Also they picked Serra because she is THE angle Show some respect for that OG son

      • TJ

        It isn’t about set represntation simply because the FTV would be 40 something cards alone for block representation. Also, the only FTV set that has ever been all creatures, would have been Legends. Dragons had one sorecery and one enchantment. Very likely at least one card will be angel based but not be a creature, and a decent chance that the non-creature card total may be 2

        • shawn Wilsons

          yeah, I see that after looking up FTV dragons. I wonder what they will pick

    • Mundungu

      Tariel is soooo good. Was one of my top choices for this set.. Needed a foil for my Kaalia deck.. It’s almost all foiled now, just a few more cards to go! I got a feeling Fallen Angel will be in there too, with new art..

      • TJ

        Random creatures, really isn’t that great. Rather play debtor’s knell for the same price, and reya for my own creatures. there were much better options that Tariel. They also don’t care about cards from sets together.

      • DJ Pad

        Tariel’s a pretty bad card (doesn’t make the cut in my Kaalia deck because there are so many better options to play), but I suppose it was included because it needed a foil version.

  • Mundungu

    So here’s my guess (Not Wishlist) at the remaining nine cards;

    – Illusory Angel
    – Maelstrom Archangel
    – Fallen Angel
    – Baneslayer Angel
    – Serra Avenger
    – Blinding Angel
    – Gabriel Angelfire
    – Decree of Justice
    – Angelic Destiny

    Anyone?

    • Claire Redfield

      I’d much rather see Entreat the Angels than Decree of Justice, but the list looks sound enough.

    • TJ

      Serra Avenger is a Scratch since Serra Angel is 14 and tariel is 15. They just, again, for the socond time in 6 months, rereleased decree of justice, so here is to Entreat the angels (we hope).

    • Mundungu

      Scratch all that. New list above.

  • Jareth

    Five likely options for the left two slots between Akroma and Avacyn: Archangel of thune, Aurelia, Angel of dispair, Angel of serenity, Angel of jubilation, I hope they are the first two options, more spoilers!

    • Mundungu

      So you just made me re-think my guesses for the remaining cards. I didn’t factor in the order of cards and what could be possible for the remaining slots. Here’s my new list of guesses;
      – Angel of Despair
      – Angel of Salvation
      – Blinding Angel
      – Gabriel Angelfire
      – Illusory Angel
      – Luminarch Ascention
      – Maelstrom Archangel
      – Platinum Angel
      – Sigil of the Empty Throne

  • Vizzerdrix

    So im guessing some sort of spoiler tomorrow? 2 weeks from release and nothing today or yesterday

  • Angels

    Since Twilight Shepherd is out… I think the feature art might be angel of despair.

    I want to see more old bordered card in new frames, otherwise they’re just reprinting cards which is boring and hardly from the ‘vault’

    I think it might look something like:

    -Akroma
    -Akroma
    -Angel of Despair (New Art)
    -Angel of Serenity
    -Avacyn
    -Entreat the Angels
    -Exalted Angel
    -Firemaine Angel
    -Iona
    -Iridescent Archangel
    -NEW Linvala from BFZ
    -Platnum Angel
    -Selena, Dark Angel
    -Serra Angel
    -Tariel

  • Sani

    Anything green, blue and black?

    • Melissa Juice

      There’s a bant angel.
      And two of these have blue.

  • Kyle

    This is everything I could have hoped for except Linvala, who I didn’t realistically expect to make it

  • Poor Fella

    ouch, WOTC didnt take it easy, with all those angels, im certain that here in brazil will come 900-1000 R$

    :/

    • Leonardo Duarte

      I feel you mon…

    • Nharzhool

      They could have put Linvala and Gisela in though…I wish they had…

  • Matti

    Exalted Angel! Totally a surprise for me. And kinda good one. I loved Exalted angel when I started to play magic during Onslaught cycle. But I didn’t pull her then and she was quite expensive. Glad to get her FTV now, in a special art. Same for Iridescent Angel. To be honest i’m not dissapointed in any card, but perhaps lightning angel (not very ‘angel’-ish card imo, and to much colours to be playable, art not great). Glad I pre-ordered some (at msrp!!)

    And 5 new arts + the half new one of Serra Angel (some feared Serra angel would take a ‘new art’ spot. Another good point in this set.

    As for Linvala, I suspected she wouldnt be released in this set (hoped it though). Quickly bought the last one at 28 euro (next listed one was 33 euro’s. At the moment there’s like only 7 Linvala’s below 40 euro, so glad I got her ‘cheap’ while i could.

    • Kyle

      You’re lucky you found these at MSRP. But I agree with what you said. Cool angels except lightning angel. The art seems kinda weird.

  • Sugar thekitty

    So, the new arts were: 2 Akromas, Iona, Iridescent, and Exalted. And Serra didn’t count as new because it was an oversized card in that art before, so that’s great.

  • Vizzerdrix

    Overall very happy. This’ll be the second ftv I buy and this makes up for the travesty that was annihilation

  • BukkakeSniper

    Disappointing, but not surprising.

    First we get FTV: Annihilation, the lowest valued vault in the series, with no Damnation.

    Now we have FTV: Angels, the 2nd lowest valued vault in the series, with no Linvala.

    Throw us a frickin’ bone, Wizards!

    • TJ

      Sure, foil avacyn will be 85 before long, entreat the Angels will be 40, Baneslayer will be 30 or more Jenara will be more than 20. This box in less than 6 months will be 150 easy. Especially with the only foil versions of tariel and archangel of strife.

      • DJ Pad

        Neither Tariel nor Archangel of strife are any good. And if you think avacyn, entreat, baneslayer etc. will be worth that much long term, you are clearly not aware of price trends with recent FTV products…

        The only ones that may hold their value long term are the ones that see competitive play of which likely only includes Entreat (though foil terminus from Annihilation isn’t worth much) and Baneslayer (sees a TINY amount of modern play). Avacyn/Iona might retain value due to EDH but most players will only need one copy so that keeps their price down (not to mention Iona’s was already down d/t MM2015, this will liekly smash it even more)

        Linvala likely would have retained value on the merit of being great in EDH and a great modern card.

        • TJ

          But you miss the point their are no other foils of strife or Tariel, so they will be somewhat valuable. Nearly all true die hard EDH fans runs complete foil, by the way something I can’t even afford. Like dragons because of the flavor this will only go up, especially with the Serra artwork and it already known popularity. The only set that really hasn’t held it value, is in fact annihilation, all other sets have continued to go up. As for Baneslayer, her foil is around worth around 30. Entreat vs terminus is a silly comparison because foil AVR terminus is only 15, while entreat has been at more than 40 since it’s release. Baneslayer also gets much more play than akroma, simply because she is just about as good, for a lot less to drop, AND you can have more than 1 on the field at a time. The prices may remain low for a few months but are guaranteed to go up. The new fetches have all nearly doubles since Khans release. Some of the Angels in here really aren’t worth much, but the remaining ones are what will drive the price up.

          • BukkakeSniper

            Unfortunately, when it comes to EDH, Tariel and Jenara are heavily outclassed (Kaalia, Derevi, etc.) in their respective color pies. Despite being the only foil version of Tariel, I can’t see the card going for more than $15-20.

            As for the rest, there’s no evidence to support price jumps of any magnitude within the next several months. Literally, the only vault creature that’s worth more than $5-10 over its regular, nonfoil version is Nicol Bolas, and that’s a very unique case (new art, ED flavor, iconic lore, etc.).

          • TJ

            I am sure that is what people thought about kaalia. Then fun thing is you drop Tariel with kaalia, and because you had Aurelia, you get to dump another creature. As I posted in another response, I would rather play debtor’s knell to steal creatures. I do believe the foil tariel is going to be significantly higher than her predecessor simply because of those crazies who swear that all EDH decks should be completed foiled, something I find to costly for my wife and me.

          • DJ Pad

            Better card than Tariel + Archangel fo Strife in Kaalia:

            Hellkite Tyrant, Steel Hellkite, Karmic Guide, Bloodgift Demon, Gisela, Balefire dragon, Sire of Insanity, Akroma (both versions), Yosei, Thundermaw, Utvara Hellkite, Iona, Lord of the Void, Dragon Mage, Kokusho, Rune-Scarred Demon, Aurelia, Resolute Archangel, Angel of Serenity, Scourge of the Throne, Baneslayer, Angel of despair, Master of cruelties, Avacyn, Adarkar Valkyrie

          • DJ Pad

            If you’re die hard enough to foil out your Kaalia deck, you can find better creatures than those two to put in it. They won’t be worth anything because there isn’t much demand for those cards and they won’t be rare or hard to find as they are in every box. the FTV sets haven’t, as whole held their value, rather the GOOD cards in those sets have held they’re value. The casual stuff generally hasn’t. You can’t compare random casual cards that people MIGHT want one of to competitive staples that many decks want 4 of (like fetch lands and many cards from the other FTVs). If you can’t understand the economics of that then I don’t know what to tell you.

            The only cards in this set that MIGHT have a chance at retaining some value are entreat (likely will be ~$10), Baneslayer (5-$10), Avacyn (maybe $15), and Iona (maybe $10-15), the rest will be worth $2-$5 at best.

            Look at Rolling earthquake and burning of xinye in the last FTV. Both were worth huge amount of money before reprint because they were rare and this was the first time they were foiled, and they’re not worth much of anything anymore.

            Tariel and Archangel of strife will both be sub $5 in not that long, trust me.

          • TJ

            Your kidding about the value right. The only FTV that isn’t at least triple msrp or better is annihilation. And annihilation isn’t worth much because many people don’t like board wipes. Avacyn will run no less than her no foiled counter part, if even the fact that shops won’t sell her that low. The big hit Angels will be worth something which is about the first five revealed and entreat will be worth something, but then either or both of us could be wrong. But I know the cheapest FTV dragon you can find is 180.

          • DJ Pad

            I’m not kidding about the value. If you’re talking about sealed product then it always goes for more than the sum of the singles. FTV dragons was printed in a much smaller supply a long time ago so that is the only thing propping up its value as a sealed product because aside from Nicol Bolas and Kokusho, there is nothing in there worth more than $12 and most is <$8.

            Honestly, look at what other FTV singles go for. You won't find a casual card among (aside from Bolas and Kokusho) worth more than $12. In fact, most are $2-$8. The only ones that retain any value are the cards that get played competitively. There is a real lack of competitive staples in this set.

    • DevilTheKing

      Yeah no Maelstrom?

  • DJPad

    This REALLY needed Linvala, was really the only card I was hoping for.

  • Anonon

    Overall very glad the box went the way it did. I still need quite a bit to foil out my aurelia deck, so the worst case scenario could have been Aurelia and a bunch of 4/4 angel tokens and I would have been happy.

    Aurelia, Avacyn, Platinum Angel, Tariel, Entreat the Angels, Iona and Archangel of Strife all have places to go while the 2 akromas and serra angel are the only cards i probably wont find a place for. It definitely could’ve been better, but I definitely am not disappointed since there’s at least the one card I was hoping would be there.

  • Hritzdaddy

    No love for Desolation Angel. Sheesh

    • Guest

      I had my fingers crossed for Fallen Angel.

  • Nanya

    Oh good, that Linvala I have won’t go down in price anytime soon.

    TBH, I was expecting Linvala and Avacyn, not Iona and Avacyn.

    Wish that Sublime Archangel had made it in, or Akroma’s Memorial.

    Oh well.

  • Kahai

    Totally called the Lightning Angel!

    Thankfully i get my vault at msrp, all for just buying a box of origins. :D Love my store!! <3

  • Sam Chi

    Is Geist REALLY so out-of-the-question that he couldn’t show up here?

    • Taxle

      yes

    • TJ

      So far out of the way, it might as well have been Antarctica. Same reason Akroma’s Memorial wasn’t likely to be here other than her name, it isn’t actually angel flavored.

    • Melissa Juice

      …Huh?

    • Why would Geist be here? He produces angels temporarily. He is not an angel. Same reason Kaalia isn’t here.

  • MtgDude

    This had much much more then I thought it would. FTV foil finish on many of my favorite cards in the game. Tho I never would have guessed the art was for Exalted Angel lol not complaining tho.

  • Hritzdaddy

    IMO Like FTV Dragons this should have had an enchantment, say cut the Red Akroma (who plays with this LOL) for Luminarch Ascension. Cut Lightning Angel which has already had reprints for a more obscure angel from same block that doesn’t have a modern frame version, Copper-Leaf Angel or even better, Desolation Angel. Finally Archangel of Strife is fairly new and pretty crummy, so cut that for another not so good but more obscure without a modern framed version, Angel of Fury. None of these are worth anything and would have added to the overall From The Vault theme…. Not from recently and not worth the time. Other then that this is good.

    • TJ

      Do you know what happens in turn 8 of a game when you cast Master of Warcraft, declare all blockers can’t block swing for lethal when you drop this and choose war, oh and true conviction is in play? Any creature with power 2 are now dealing ten damage each? Pretty sweet as a combat trick.

      • Hritzdaddy

        LOL so many ifs!, But I get the card can be useful. Unfortunately you forgot I have Energy Field and Wheel of Sun and Moon targeting me in play! No damage for me. :)

        • TJ

          I didn’t think about the combat tricks until I responded to you, attack, they decide not to block and you plop this out with quicksilver amulet and now there is a ton more damage.

          • DJ Pad

            And then they Cyclonic Rift and you cry

          • TJ

            Cards like that are why I still run basandra and grand abolisher.

    • TJ

      The only things is there are so many more dragons, and angels than there were in 2008. I don’t know if form of the dragon would make the cut if it were reintroduced today. I forsee a FTV dragons 2 in the future. To many great dragons have been printed since 2008 to not do one later.

      • 1. Thunderbreak Regent
        2. Scourge of Valkas
        3. Shivan Dragon
        4. Prossh
        5. Zirilan
        6-15. ?

        • TJ

          1) zirilan is on the reserved list, so count him out.
          The other four are decent. It would almost guaranteed to include thundermaw hellkite and stormbreath Dragons. Karthus, hellkite overlord, bale fire dragon, probably moonviel, who is better than shivan and the others are up in the air.

  • Terry Clausen

    $130 in value
    35 msrp

    • TJ

      If you go by current foil value, which you should, avacyn is 85, entreat is 40 and Baneslayer is 30. The cards may not match dollar for dollar now, but the will soon.

      • Sjacco van den Berg

        Which you should not since most from the vault cards are CHEAPER then their non foil brothers

        • TJ

          In some cases but not all. Many of these but not all will match or beat the non-foil.

          • Sjacco van den Berg

            In most cases**

          • DJ Pad

            And there’s about a 100% chance that the price of these cards’ non-foil and FTV versions tank considerably after the release of this…Do not look at current prices as a judgement of how much value is in here, because those prices are based on the current supply. The market will get flooded after the release of this box set and prices will drop, in many cases considerably.

          • TJ

            Just look at past sets. JMS non-foils and the likes have’nt sunk in value. It is all about card power. Avacyn may dip briefly, but will soon take her place again and so will most. The biggest dip in price will probably be Iona though, even with the alternate art.

          • Cuz they’re reprinting her into the dirt nowadays.

          • TJ

            Talking Avacyn or Iona. The only reason Iona will dip is because of the two close print runs. She will wind up going back up, she is to powerful not to, this reprint is exclusive art which very well may surpass the original.

  • Saint Traft

    Oh wow, who knew that new veiled angel art was for Exalted Angel. Can’t wait to get this. It’s a must have for my angel collection. ^_^

  • Minja

    Shot you a message on Facebook as Jacob. Lemme know when you get back to me, thanks!

  • michael ciriaco

    Aurelia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • The Pudge

      I can sell you some copies

  • DevilTheKing

    YESSSSSS AURELIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • DevilTheKing

    But guys, something is really wrong with WoTC’s brain. Maelstrom. The only 5-color angel and… nope! WoTC you make me think that you should go sell MTG to some company that will actually make good decisions about the most impactful angels in MTG history.

    • Matti

      While I hoped myself for Maelstrom Archangel to be included, there’s some issue’s with the card. First the card isn’t thematic/storywise, or namewise really ‘super heroic/well known’, wich kinda is the theme of this FTV a bit (but is debatable of course). Secondly she is banned in commander, where most of the foil demand comes from. Plus, she’s not legendary herself (a legendary card always has that slight plus, for both commander, and lorewise). Building multicolour decks that work without problem is hard. As a result, demand may be very very small for maelstrom archangel. While nice as a collector’s item, I think these are some of the reasons they didn’t choose her. And overall i’m not dissapointed with the other choices they made.

      • pain42

        She is most certainly not banned in commander. She’s effectively a better quicksilver amulet on a body with a combat damage prerequisite. And due to the fact that she’s five colors there are only one or two commander decks that would even want to play her, since she’s not a sliver or a dragon.

        Continuing on building efficient multicolor decks is actually pretty easy, you just have to know what you want the deck to do, I just threw together a pretty decent Progenitus deck a week or so ago and it took me maybe an hour or so.

    • TJ

      If you watch deck lists from the top 8 of any format where Maelstrom is legal, you will quickly notice not many of any of them are 5 colored. Secondly, if they didn’t print scion of Ur-Dragon I. FTV dragons, why would anyone expect to see maelstrom here. While she is good, many, not all of the cards are substantially better than maelstrom. Also, these Angels, many of them were more impactful in standard than maelstrom was. Not to say I wouldn’t have loved to get her in here, but I really didn’t expect to see her here. They will probably one day make a a WUBRG FTV. And she may very well be in there.

    • Melissa Juice

      Yeah. I think everyone at Wizards is stupid and they don’t know how to design products and I don’t like them and they’re stupid.

      Actually, this product was *very* well designed. Props to the team.

  • Robbie Mahoney

    What about Reya

    • Melissa Juice

      Your pic. lol

    • DJ Pad

      Reya was in Conspiracy, and it’s garbage.

      • Aaron Richards

        lightning is garbage and yet she is in this

  • esuna @ EASY Coast

    thank god i held on to my foil gisela and linvala. sold avacyn, akromas and iona just in time :)

    • esuna @ EASY Coast

      i really hoped wizards did the new art for the Chris Rahn angels. No offense to him because he makes the best swords art but Jenara and Sigarda deserve better art.

    • TJ

      You realize, that FTV products have never really affected the price of the cards that were already out there. FTV 20 popped Jace, but his WW foil is still about 460.

      • esuna @ EASY Coast

        simple supply and demand economics. people who want to buy said cards now have more in circulation and are most likely going to buy the cheaper versions. thus, the more expensive ones if they refuse to lower the price will be harder to move by collectors/sellers and are more than likely going to stay in their inventory or get lucky and find an extremely niche market of “money is no object” buyers. not to mention if your old versions are not near mint, its impossible to get people to buy it over the mint new package.

      • DJ Pad

        WW foil was $700 before FTV 20, so it definitely had an effect on the price.

        • TJ

          JMS Ww foil was only 450 tcg average a week before he was spoiled.

          • Aaron Richards

            seriously the people who pay 460 for a PW need to get their heads
            checked. this isnt even alpha or beta. I’ve had sorin win me games and
            he costs 10-15.

          • TJ

            But Jace is beyond stupid. With proliferat ug and the right set you could set him off the turn he came onto the table, then mill 6 and game.

  • Chi

    who said Msrp is 35? ebay and tcg are $100

    • WotC sets all MSRPs. Just because the prices are suggested doesn’t mean that they need to be followed.

      • scotch1337

        True, but why have an msrp on a product that by the vast majority will be priced by the stores differently any how. I say no listed msrp and just let the market sell it for what they think it’s worth. That way the sense of unfairness doesn’t occurs every time we get one of these limited releases.

        • Even if there wasn’t an announced MSRP people would still say that the prices that stores are charging would be unfair. The same is true for every product released by every company, sellers of any product will try to hike up the price to make more money than they already are on any given sale. Regardless of whether or not a company sets an MSRP price as a fair trade value for both the consumer to pay for and the seller to make a profit there will be someone that won’t follow it and other stores will follow in suit in order to make a larger profit off of desperate buyers.

        • TJ

          Because if you set no price…… It would be an even greater divide on the price.

      • TJ

        Doesn’t mean they WILL be followed. However given the fact MSRP is 34.99, if sold at MSRP the stores are making at least 15 off each box. Even if the stores only profit 33% from MSRP that is still 12 a box, and I only found one store in SoCal selling for 40. So at 75 shops made almost 60 a piece.

        • OK? All I said was that stores don’t need to follow MSRP’s.

    • TJ

      Manufacturer “suggested” retail price. Doesn’t mean dealers are willing to shaft is on the prices. There have actually been a few shops willing to go below the norm.

      • Aaron Richards

        there isnt a possibility for an individual to buy directly from wotc is there

        • TJ

          The only way to get anything directly from wizards is have a friend on the inside or be a brick and mortar store. I do wish there was something more wizards would do about the limited release but there really isn’t a feasible way. They would have to call the thousand of shops these were sent to and fish for the price then find someway to reprimand the store without the players feeling the pinch.

  • The Pudge

    Kinda disappointed with my favorite Exalted Angel. I was hoping for a Rob Alexander art or the original art by Michael Sutfin in an FTV foil. No offense with the Tyler Jacobson art but meh…he should have used this art in another angel. This new art doesn’t seem to fit the iconic Exalted Angel. She looks like a ghost in a horror low budget movie.

  • Derek Niles

    I wanted Kaalia a lot but I really didn’t think she was going to be on here. The card I really really really wanted and totally should of been in here in my opinion is Maelstrom. Pretty bummed about that but as a whole this is still an awesome product!

    • Derek Niles

      Also, I’m pretty shocked none of three powerpuff girls are on here

      • esuna @ EASY Coast

        If they printed one they must have felt obligated to print all three. i would have preferred them over the two akromas and the freakin uncommon serra angel but i guess wizards just print what they want. i definitely think that maelstrom archangel, angel of despair, archangel of thune and angel of serenity were better picks.

        • Derek Niles

          Well to be fair, this is suppose to 15 of the most iconic angels and Serra Angel is number one on that list, so I think it really does deserve its spot here regardless of value.

          Also, I don’t know if they would have needed to print all three. I think just one to represent the group would have been fine, but I guess its a moot point now

          • Nharzhool

            Just BTW, it’s “moot”, not “mute”.

          • Derek Niles

            Yep, my phone decided it wanted to say “mute” lol…fixed now

          • esuna @ EASY Coast

            serra angel is just not a worthy card even with people’s nostalgia. its the same with sengir vampire, mahamoti djinn and shivan dragon where they used to be the best but are now outclassed by almost every new creature. well they did put both akromas when they weren’t even in the same set so they would probably do it for them. its wizards logic and it makes no sense.

          • Derek Niles

            I disagree, From the Vault products have nothing at all to do with how powerful or rare the cards are but rather how much of an impact on the game that card had, and Serra Angel had a HUGE impact on the game

          • TJ

            and you think that an angel with 15 printings constantly a staple in most decks with white wouldn’t have been printed why.

          • Derek Niles

            I think you misunderstood, I was replying to esuna’s comment…I do think Serra Angel should be here

          • That’s why it was down graded from rare back to uncommon in core sets. Serra Angel is in this because it is the most printed and iconic angel in the history of Magic, and little to do with people’s nostalgia. Wizards logic is typically good and this set is no exception. They did what the point of every FtV is, reprint the most iconic cards of the theme all in one 15 card set.

    • Nharzhool

      Dude…Kaalia is a human, not an Angel…I’m mostly bummed that I’m not getting a Linvala out of this…and the Powerpuff Girls…they’re so hard to get in South Africa.

      • Derek Niles

        The cards don’t have to be angels, just angel themed. But even so, she is also dragon/demon themed so that’s why I was I didn’t think she would be on here. And yeah, I would have rathered Linvala over Iona personally

        • At this point I think that it’s clear that creature based FtVs will have all of the creatures be the themes type and 1 or 2 noncreature cards that are directly rlated to the theme.

  • Ryū

    Love the new art for Iridescent Angel. Never thought she’d be in it, but I’m glad she is.

    • Aaron Richards

      a lovely reprint and port from legacy to modern

  • Eddie Bowles

    ***Reduced price*** I have 7 left at now $50!!! Will ship to USA!!! I’m at the shop located in port Royal, sc… find me on fb!!!

    • Exyrea

      they’re selling them at 45 here in Cali at my local shop

      • TJ

        Do they do phone?

    • David R Tuck

      I bought mine at my lgs for $35

  • Jeremy Vengevine Grimes

    My local shop was Preselling them for $35!

    • TJ

      Can I get the name of your shop?

    • Survival Wizard

      What’s the name of your shop?

      • Jeremy Vengevine Grimes

        Puzzles and Planeswalkers in englewood, ohio

  • tyke5140

    Sounds like the hype is finally dying down and people are cancelling their $80+ pre orders so the gougers are panicking and attempting to sell them quick. I think I will go ahead and purchase my first from the vault set and this will be the one.

  • Eddie Bowles

    3 left at $50!!!

    • Noah

      Still have one for sale? I messaged you and ur store on fb.

  • Eddie Bowles

    Down to 2… Steve you are confirmed!!!

    • Seth Ludwig

      I’m trying to find you on Facebook. I will buy one from you.

    • Gradius125

      Any left?

      • Eddie

        Yes gradius!!!! Hit me up!!

  • Eddie

    I messaged u back Noah but to no avail…

  • kltsurumaki

    Looking at the flavor text, angels seem really violent…

    • TJ

      If you ever get a chance to read the Bible, which is much of where angels are first heard of and appear, they aren’t very peaceful at all, except upon the times in which they are worshipping God in Heaven. Nearly everytime, but not every time, they are mentioned they are delivering out God’s wrath upon the unrighteous.

      • Anon

        Actually Norse mythology predates Christianity and the valkyries are probably what the angels of your religion are based on. Someone can probably correct me on that, but I do know that the Abrahamic religions did copy a lot from the other “pagan” religions to attract more followers.

        Also I think a lot of the angels from the Abrahamic religions don’t even look human, much less female. Aren’t they supposed to be alien-like instead of girls with wings?

        • TJ

          According to Judaism and even Chrstianity, all we have is know that they supposed to be sexless, and beautiful. Abrahimic faiths, such as Judaism, were the first known and passed on monotheistic religion of their time and as far as we have records, history. To think that the Jews and Moses knew of things tens of thousands of miles away is quite funny. Typically according to Jews writings, anything that was copied from other religions ultimately led to death and because of the death repentance and so forth. The point is, there are barely any writing “older” and known of history rise before when the Old Testament dates itself. There are some, but not many. And many of those haven’t been as painstakingly copied as Judaism. If a scribe today is copying scriptures and makes a mistake on the last page, then every page in the manuscript is discarded not just the last page, the overall point wasn’t to really bring in religion, but to show, that at least in Judeo-Christian beliefs, angels aren’t very peaceful.

          • BalthasarH

            You have to remember though, that the Torah in its mordern form was written down during the babylonian exile a few hundred years after the foundation of Israel. And the babylonians had many statues of Sphinxes (same as the Egyptians by the way) which could have been the origin of angels. It is known that the jews integrated some of the babylonian myths into the torah (the great flood is first mentioned in the Gilgamesh-Epic more than 2000 years before the babylonian exile and the version in the bible is basicaly a direct copy except that noah in the original was a king, was warned by one of many god and the crow found the land instead of a dove).
            And the first known monotheistic religion was the Aton belief of the pharao Echnaton.

          • Aaron Richards

            Sorry but Abraham (ca 2000 b.c.) predates Akhenaten by 800 years.

    • Lord Bearington

      It’s to represent the side of white that believes in justice and protecting the weak from those who would wish harm upon them. White is also the color of organized warfare and is by no means a pacifist color, though peace is an end they wish to achieve they understand that others do not want peace and are more than willing to take advantage of those who are pacifist. Also this is a game based on magical combat and non-violent angels are hard to make and be good or have some differences in abilities besides “pacifism” or exile based abilities. Plus I’m a sucker for the “righteous fury” and “I came here to smite evil and chew bubble gum and I’m all out of gum” stuff and plenty of people are like me xD.

  • Matti

    Picked mine (3) up just now. Very happy. Shop couldn’t say for sure earlier if it would be 35 or more to 50 euro, but he said, but that they would handle msrp, if the retailer margin allowed it. And happy they did. Payed 35 euro per piece, didnt expect that low lol. Life counter is nice, it’s ‘broken white’ (not the same white, but with variation around the dice, with a very slight transparency), and the numbers + FTV icon are in copper colour. The guide contains (backside) a huge poster of Tariel (where you can actually look at her face, pretty surprising to be honest).

    Both Akroma’s look amazing in FTV foil finish. On the White akroma the gold armor/jewel (and blade) stand really out, giving the cards a special feel. The Red Akroma, is also very nice in similar way (but it includes all the fire/lightning magic she’s using). Serra Angel looks amazing. Iona is ok (while foil, the card still feels a bit dark). But i’m confidant the original art would not look that good in foil. Avacyn and Angel of strife look very good also. While not a big fan of Jenara art, the foil brings more charm into it (her armor and shield stands out more). Similar with Aurelia. Iridescent angel is amazing.

    The Cards are slightly bent (some on the long side, others on short side). Hopefully sleeving them, and putting them in a relative full plastic card box, will but a slight pressure on them, normalizing the bending.

    Happy opening of FTV:Angels for other peope!

  • Aaron Richards

    Yes, yes, guys. We get it. You’re all special snowflakes who went to special snowflake stores kind/stupid enough to sell FTV at MSRP instead of at what price they are sold at pretty much everywhere else (2x MSRP). Then there are those unlucky ones who paid 3x MSRP or worse. A moment of silence for them.

    Point is, there should be more people upset about the almost 10 year experience Wotc has making FTVs and yet they flat out refuse to improve on their foiling process (which is WORSE than the one used for foils in blocks which are nowhere near as bent as these FTV cards sold for premium price to boot). Companies have been sued for lesser issues regarding quality control and here you are, the MTG playerbase, lapping up the annual FTV Wotc throws in your general direction instead of demanding to have them produce decent cards.

    • TJ

      Clearly what wizards does works well. This is the 7th year has done ftv and has done it the same way everytime. Obviously many people like the ftv print foil, or no one would get them regardless of the cards. The foiling process is a matter of player opinion, some of the cards look better on the ftv foil while others it is a distraction. Secondly wotc doesn’t see any of the extra premium price. If these sets were really that premium, MSRP would be more commander arsenal. And thirdly it is nice to see shops out there where honest business practices are still nice. Also, since the banding is a result of the foiling process it doesn’t affect card value. A few days in sleeves in a deck box, and there is no bend.

      • Giby86 .

        Still, they should strive to at least fix the bending. I mean, it’s an obvious and pretty annoying flaw for a product that is sold as a premium collector edition. The bending problem is even more ridiculous because the regular, non-luxury foil version of these cards do not bend as much.

    • Papayaman1000

      Also, if you store them with those air-removing packets that you find in beef jerky and the similar, they don’t bend, and sometimes even un-bend.

      BTW, you don’t need to buy a bunch of beef jerky to get them either. You can buy them online.

  • David Martinoya

    Anyone noticed that the White Akroma cost 5WWW when his real mana cost is 6WWW???

    • Poro Vlad

      is this a joke?

      • Poro Vlad

        ’cause the Akroma mana cost is right. i converted 8

        • Justin Foreman

          He is mistaking Akroma for Reya Dawnbringer.

    • Abid D. Alexander

      *his real cost* lol

  • Giby86 .

    Here in Italy my lgs has tons of these, they sell it for MSRP and they actually have a hard time selling them at all. O_o

    • Ninth Settler

      Could you link me to them? I would fancy myself a set in Italian.

      • Giby86 .

        It doesn’t allow me to post links for some reason. It’s defconduezero [dot] it. This set is in English only, though, you know that, right?

    • Nebulium

      Yeah, a link or some contact info would be awesome. An Italian set would be really neat to have.

  • selesnyawarden

    That Akroma angel of Fury art is so, hot, I’m burning at the sight of her flaming hair and curvy hips! this is a big change from her old art, not complaining though, this piece is beautiful, worthy of been worshipped. Terese Nielsen, the quality shows.